I must say that I have been very put off ever trying DMT after watching others use it. I have never seen such obvious fear, terror and panic on the face of another person. It was the look of someone who had seen way too much and had no possible way of his mind dealing with what he saw. It was the face of someone who had just seen death.
If DMT is as they say, the chemical that of brain releases when we die, then I think I might save this one until I need it most. When I am actually dying. I would hate to burn out the receptors in my brain for DMT and then have to go through the whole death experience with no assistance. I also know that whatever I can see under the influence of DMT, I can see much clearer without it.
Maybe it’s the Scorpio in me but in my world I respect death, I don’t play with it.
If DMT is as they say, the chemical that of brain releases when we die
I’ve read that DMT exists naturally in all of us and neurologists believe it may play a major role in dreaming, meditative states and near-death experiences, but I’ve never heard that before - very interesting. Do you have a link with some more info.?
While I’m sure DMT is nothing to take lightly by any means, I’ve yet to hear of anybody saying they regretted taking it. On the contrary, most seem to have described it as an overwhelming experience that they’re glad they had, even if they never want to do it again. Also, in addition to the short duration, I thought there was an element of euphoria to the experience that subdued the feelings of paranoia and other bad thoughts common to users of LSD, mushrooms, etc.?
[quote author=“ckm000”]My psychedelic experimenting days have been over for a few years now, but I must admit from what I’ve read it sounds quite interesting. Anybody care to share their experience ?
Never had the opportunity to try DMT (which considering the often frightening times I’ve had on mushrooms might be a good thing) but check out http://www.erowid.org/ for info on the drug, including first hand experiences.
Funny, i just was gonna start a thread about DMT.
Ive been studying shamanism and DMT use for about 12 years now.
During the early 90’s when Terrence Mckenna was still alive, There was a flood of Lab grade DMT circling around the Trance and Rave culture of the Canadian west Coast.
i was first introduced to DMT in the form of a Anadenanthera Pegrina Seed from the Peruvian jungle.
Which is the seed used to make Yopo, a DMT snuff used by shamans in the Amazon. As i read more and more about DMT and the people who use it, i began to feel like i was being shown a secret, kept hidden by the depths of the jungle for thousands of years.
Having consumed copious amounts of LSD and Mushrooms, i began to realize that my search for knowledge was being amped up a few notches, All in the same period i was introduced to Psy-Trance.
I was alreadly familiar with the Trance state from being a Hand Drummer.
Well after doing tons of research i finally came across my first gram of Lab grade DMT. i wore it around my neck in a vial and gave most of it away-before i even did it. As i watched the look of astonishment on the faces of my friends it really became clear that this was very powerful medicine.
I wondered if the Hippies in the 60’s did DMT.
I came across references to it in a beat novel, and an interesting story about how the Grateful Dead got their name. Apparently they were sitting around smoking DMT and Jerry Garcia opened up the Dictionary and there it was..“Grateful Dead”.
Anyways, MY first experience blew my mynd.
I could see with my eyes closed. I saw everything as a giant hologram. The atmosphere was electric and everything was connected with these fine thread like astral fibres.
No elves the first time.
I read everything i could about it, and before 1994, Terrence Mckenna was really the only person really saying “Hey everyone look at this!”
In 1994, Rick Strassman, a shrink from Taos, New Mexico got FDA approval to do research on human subjects with DMT. his research can be read about in his book:
“DMT, the Spirit Molecule.”
After reading this, and comparing it to the reports of the Indians, it really became clear that this was the ticket to a understanding of the World we live in, and the spiritual manner in which all is connected.
There is extensive information on line about DMT, and i encourage anyone to visit these sites.
DMT is the chemical released when we dream at night, certain Tantric paths teach how to release it through sex.
It is also released 49 days after conception, when the Gonads and the Penial gland are created in the fetus.
After researching the Yogic sciences and comparing them to the Shamanic sciences, i realized that what takes a Yogi 30 years to experience by discipline and routine, the shamans in the jungle go there Instantly, by the Understanding and being in Relation to the Plants of the Gods, those who’s leaves and roots contains DMT.
Because DMT is naturally created and used by the brain, it has a lock that DMT fits as a chemical key.
Whether you spend your whole life trying to do it naturally or you use the DMT in Plants, it all works the same.
DMT is non-Toxic, it doesnt burn out any receptors and in fact it allows us access to a part of reality that for thousands of years has been a intregal part of human spiritual development.
Here’s an analogy.
Say you buy a house, and the previous owner gives you the Key for the house, and this key has been with the house for its whole manifestation.
If you go and get another key made, it still fits the same lock.And the Door still opens.
the DMT world is also inhabited with a intelligence that is alien in nature. These beings approach you and and seem really curious about you.
Ive had full on abductions where i feel like i’ve been fitted with astral impants.They speak and they dance, they show you things and they look into your heart to see if your worthy of the Knowledge you seek.
These are the gate keepers.
I could spend hours writting my DMT experiences, but i don’t want to create preconcieved notions in the minds of those who haven’t tasted it yet…..
Like the Shamans in the Jungle we gather and we dance. The poly Rhythms and the beats remain the same, the Pulse of our Trance is the same as the pulse on the skin of the Drum, and they consume DMT when they gather like this.
So I began smoking DMT while on the dance floor at outdoor parties.
I began combining it with LSD.
Then Ketamine and DMT. I began writting down all my tryps.
I realized that i was experincing new forms of conciousness, I began going deeper than ever and was able to soundly and sanely come back to tell the tale.
DMT is for everyone. Maybe not exactly at the same moment but it is for everyone to taste. Whether you like it or not.
And although i don’t fully understand it yet, DMT is altering our DNA, individually and communally.
Jeremy Narby’s book “The Cosmic Serpent” is a great book about DNA and DMT.
The reason the pulse of Trance Music is so uplifting and spiritually significant is that it mimicks the sound of our mother’s pulse when we were in the Womb. It brings us back, and if you have done your homework, drugs like LSD,Mushrooms,DMT,Ketamine all address the issues of Birth life and Death.
And by fully understanding how they work in our brains, and how they have been used in the past by our ancestors, we can lay the foundations for future generations to realize that the Plant Queendom hold the Keys to unlocking vistas of the Imagination and reality that no Religion,no book,no man,,,,,could possibly pass onto you.
Extracting DMT from Mimosa Hostilis Root bark is a very easy process, i learned it in a day and from the time my root bark arrived in the mail, in 18 hours i was tasting my own pure natural DMT.
For more info check out our community at www.entheogen.com.
So once again, i’m really excited to be able to meet Simon and Ott, and have them be Our musical Shamans at the Shambhala festival.
Wow, incredible. Thanks for sharing your experience cosmoz - I really enjoyed reading it and am now more curious than ever. I guess some day I’ll try it if I’m meant to, as I’ve heard that you don’t find DMT, it finds you. heheh
And there is a reason that is so scarce.
Because you cant sell it, you cannot put a price on a experience like that.
I also feel that if you want to learn from this medicine, The best way is too get the plant material, do the labour to extract it.
When i do, i shut off the phone, i do it alone. And i sing and put all my focus into the process, i use copal incense to cleans the room,,, And it will make your experience complete.
I recently did the Yopo snuff. It is very powerful, They call the pain you get in your sinuses ” the bite of the Jaguar”.
I prepared the seeds traditionally and if your going to attempt this medicine i really suggest eating some Ayahuasca vine before you do the snuff.
After smoking pure dmt, the Yopo experience is weak in visuals. The vine contains MAO inhibitors which catalyse the tryptamines,....
Another interesting tryptamine is 5-OH-dmt, which is found in the BAck of the Bufo Alavarius Toad, or the Sanoran Desert Toad.
it is also in the other kind of Yopo, there are two snuffs, And one contains more 5-OH-Dmt than the visually stunning N,nDmt.
BUT, the historical significance of the Toad venom is very interesting. Apparently the Mayans have a pyramid called “The temple of the Galactic toad.”
Their shaman priests would consume hot chocolate infused with magic mushrooms then while laying and staring at the stars,,would smoke the venom.
Ive smoked it twice, and it is interesting. It was very heavy and felt like a Orgasm,
It is similar to the Other DMT called 5-MEO-Dmt.
In nature, N,n dmt is almost always found with 5-meo-dmt.
Ive experinced them both on their own.
And it appears that the 5-MEO-dmt is very trance inducing, it focuses the mind, and is very orgasmic in nature. The N,n dmt then opens the mind with its stunning beauty, and colourful realms of the nether realms.
Psilocybin is also a tryptamine, DMT is the parent molecule. Seretonin a very important brain neurotransmitter is also a tryptamine.
So it would appear that this family of molecules are all part of creating our awarness and understanding of reality, and the nature of the holgraphic aspects of conciousness.
I found that by focusing the mind and body with Trance dancing,..is a great way to prepare one for the netherrealms.
I found the combination of acid and Dmt to be very synergistic. They bend so well together, i’ve had some of my most memorable spiritual ephiphanies while under the influence of these medicines combined.
The men who consume it regularly in the Jungle, say that it brings them in contact with a race of invisible to the unstoned eye little people who live near waterfalls and rocky outcroppings.
they call them the Hekura and it is from these beings that they get all there information about the Jungles Plant Queendom.
An example would be “Ayahuasca” a very potent DMT tea, which is made all over South America.
DMT by itself is normally not orally active. Due to the fact that our stomaches contain MAO’s that breal down dmt too fast to get you off.
So they say the spirits showed them a vision of a vine which unables the DMT too orally work.
How our Anthropologists wondered, out of thousands of species of plants did they find this amazing combination. They say the spirits.
And Maybe it was the DNA of the plants themselves. Maybe dmt brings your conciousness to a molecular level….Yet then again maybe the realm of farire is not as far off as were led to believe eh?
Row row row your mynd
gently down the stream
throw your ego overboard
and face realtiy
How does one describe the ineffable and why would one want to? Isn’t the attempt oxymoronic or paradoxical? Yet I’m typing. You’re never going to pinpoint God=GUT with an equation either! What if Space was made of Language? Could you then assert that “those who know do not say” holds when their very existence says it all? Sometimes people who know DO SAY because there is nothing left to do. Indeed Creation is spawned by boredom…God loves Novelty and Complexity and Earth, well,…some’d say there is bit much these days.
The best way to know is through association. This means being multidisciplined, recognizing what is to be taken exoterically and esoterically. To know that ANY given take on reality is first and foremost metaphor and observer dependent. The true seeker is the ultimate skeptic, do you see Michael Shermer (Of Skeptic magazine) doing a heroic dosage of anything? I’m skeptical of his fear of the unknown and lack of curiousity, why he needs to do backseat science.
I unapologetically write in a non-linear and fragmented way to stress that what I’m writing about is also non-linear and fragmented. This demands correlation between otherwise distinct memesets and mixing of metaphors. The universiality of mathematical bases and geometry is the obvious start to correlating any and all systems. Math however is not the be all, end all, as numbers lack the context letters provide. Why do we see “our” event horizon or transition brane as a flowing mass of archetypal letters and characters? Why did the shaman see twin serpents that look like DNA strands? Cuz they fucking were.
We are dealing with the border between (linear time & mass) and (static time & form)
We are dealing with the Holosyntactical Gematria of the Quantum Computer called space
We are dealing with the scale-invariant self-similarity of a Fractaline Branefall
…A memescape where novelty peaks in the mechanics of a mental/physical phase shift.
Not the thermal kind.
I read a book years ago called Fool on the Hill by Matt Ruff and experienced a fictional story taking place in locales that I had been to in real life, specifically Cornell University campus and downtown Ithaca NY. The normal ability to conjure imagery was replaced with actual imagery and the story became that much more real. So it is when reading accounts of DMT trips. Short of popping through the membrane into hyperspace the description of the experience is consistent with my psilocybin, mescaline and LSD trips. What is obvious after having read or been told of the DMT experience dozens of times is that there is consistency, if not in each experience then in the range. The overall response is awe. A bad trip, in hindsight is a good one, but only in hindsight…nonetheless awesome.
This consistency of experience makes it an interesting scientific tool that so far only Dr. Strassman seems to be a proponent of. The setting for the masses is our political climate and consensus reality which is already bordering on nightmarish…We would all love our leaders to become loving and empathic aka functional and wonder why not…As Dr. Strassman demonstrates, the difficulty of creating a study (Such as “Does molecularly induced love and empathy improve politics?”) under prohibition begs the question of how “they” determined it to be “bad” in the first place. Did the people who made DMT illegal base this on personal experience? It would seem requisite to employ this logic in determining its worth. The classification of DMT as a schedule 1 “drug” is due to its power to enlighten the masses, which is dangerous only to the establishment; if DMT had limbs it would’ve been crucified years ago. This is not conspiracy theory, it is obvious and ultimately moot as the true seeker nor our hyperdimensional escorts give a damn about human law. The value of the molecule is context dependent as the experience it yields is setting dependent. The context and setting are somewhat the same, however context is more about attitude than atmosphere. Due to prohibition, MTV, and plain old fear, the masses will never know how to cultivate the realer than real, they are destined to conjure their habitual reality.
DMT can serve the whole of humanity without ever having to be metabolized by the masses. No psychonaut has to bring back anything more than their words. Yes it would be interesting to see what a continuous drip would allow for, perhaps there would be enough time to actually tweak DNA from the other side or download plans for some interdimensional device. What we’ve learned so far is enough as it is a critical piece of the puzzle.
As Dr. Strassman points out, the similarity to alien abduction and NDE’s is striking. Is there a correlation? The correlation he found between the 49 days for pineal gland development and time in the Bardos is tantalizing to connect as fact. So for DMT to relate, we have to prove that the pineal can dump trippy loads of endogenous DMT. This being the cause of the NDE or abduction experience. What causes the DMT to be created in the first place is trauma. The act of being abducted is traumatic but now we have a chicken/egg situation. There is the possibility that malevolent spirits know how to literally scare children out of their bodies…I had terror induced OBEs (effectively same as NDEs) as a child so…I remember being forced, in a nightmare of monsters coming through the walls, to decide to leave my body or wake up, the OBE was rather spontaneous however. If I awoke I’d hear a deep demonic laughter echoing. It is wrong to dismiss all the other abduction specific events despite the overlapping phenomena, in the same way it’s wrong to reduce DMT experiences to a Freudian metaphor
There is a connection however.
Dr. Strassman sought a theoretical physicist to address the Multiverse answer to the DMT question. Our understanding of Dark Energy and Matter in 2005 is greater than 10 or 5 years ago. Further, the quantum model of the blackhole, experimental proof for the subtle bodies (See Infinite Mind by Valerie V. Hunt & Gravitobiology by Tom Bearden) and other seemingly unrelated metaphysical aspects shine light on the whole puzzle. If the existence of subtle bodies were proven to operate in a connected yet distinct vacuum density, asynchronous to our averaged fleshy selves, then we can say, “Yes, the human body is an interference pattern governed by DNA, and parts or the whole pattern can decohere from linear time and mass, and get anally raped by lizards.” - where are the elves then, saying, “Look at us!…Here it is!… Now you know!…”
Why does the Buddhist dismiss DMT or even describing the ineffable?? Why speak at all or identify yourself as a Buddhist? Why don’t they want to be the sugar they gladly taste? Why ignore the bridge? I know the futility of language but that’s no excuse…Buddhism is nihilism with a smile. You’re an elitist before Zen, You’re an elitist after right?
Did you know that the description of chakras is identical to self-quantizing vortices in superfluid? This suggests that the superconductive cryo-state preexists in space and that cold only emphasizes it in the same way psychedelics emphasize neuronal firing in specific regions, amplifying states that are always there but otherwise tempered or averaged out. Superfluids are the 5th state of matter, and may naturally occur in their isolated state in halos around galaxies. The behaviour of the BEC or superfluid under certain conditions is identical to the event horizon of a quantum blackhole, a quantum blackhole is entirely Dark Energy and is capable of phase shifting anything that crosses its surface…key word surface. The very fringe of scientists suspect Dark Energy is the key to interdimensional and teleportation technologies used by alien disc type craft.
Did you know that the Dogon tribe have a myth where their savior, the Nommo enveloped in a Dark Energy Craft (my interpretation of the craft) is assaulted by the “bad water insect” (Water is, esoterically Dark Matter/Energy) who tries to bite off his head? Sound familiar? Except he and his multicultural equivalents, the avatars, take all four bodies into hyperspace.
Quantum Phase Shifting: full body vs subtle body = abduction/external merkaba vs. NDE/DMT
The similarity between the eery stillness of the space near an alien craft and that of Earth on judgement day, right before the “molecules break apart”, the inter-atomic forces “slowly explode” and reverse dynamics. Terence was on to all this…how the mechanics of a UFO and that of a solar system undergoing a quasi-periodic pass through the galactic plane are the same thing (although this time we form the cross/wormhole allowing for ascension into the 5th world), in fact the propulsion system of the massless teleporting type of craft is a tiny galaxy in reverse, this is your fulcrul supersymmetry, in the singularity…your soul is a clothed singularity, right now its biased here…external merkaba=synthetic soul, this is not a problem for humans, in fact it’s our destiny, DMT is just a practice run for either event.
Is DMT creating a harmonic between the molecule/receptor site bond geometry and some kind of hyperspatial form constant? In other words, does the act of metabolizing DMT create a temporary CPT violation via some symmetry in the brain that in turn regauges our attention-bias or subtle bodies to hyperspace rather than linear time and mass? It is true only the observer could distinguish this SUBJECTIVELY. No objective experiment outside the brain could objectively prove certain tenets of quantum mechanics or resolve relativity induced paradox because its always observer dependent. It is more logical to frame the question of understanding the universe from both the inside and outside simultaneously than from one or the other. So when Hubble and particle colliders have given all they can we look at neurology and metaphysics and what they lend. In between is the technology/brain interface, in this case the technology is a simple molecular key…if science is based on consistency and good science in extreme conditions, what could be more consistent and extreme than DMT?
What if one was to use the electromagnetic signature of DMT instead of the molecule itself? That is, run a DMT sample through the appropriate spectrometer(s), Fourier Transform, mix, transmit via appropriate hardware (scalar interferometer) and see how far this homeopathy thing goes. If one could induce an experience with this “virtual DMT” you’d be proving things we haven’t thought to ask. Or what if you put DMT in a superfluid to see how it affects it? Perhaps the whole fluid would take on the signature of DMT, or change the “sounds” of the fluid, or …
Synaptic fogs interfere chaotically only to spontaneously collapse into some neural network. If quantum spin networks (convection cells of a boiling superluminal fluid), Hyperspatial mapping, Platonic solids, and form constants are all geometrically consistent or essentially the same thing, we can have a scale invariant transference, a transdimensional functionality from the aether to the cells and/or the cells to the aether, thus a mutual causality leads to processing of probability - the probability of birth and death.
Emanationism & integrationism… not reductionism.
What DMT teaches is that each of us can and must live in a Solipsistic Universe where paradox is obvious and crucial even if one can’t quite explain why. Relativity and duality become superceded by the trinity. Matter is not aggregative but fractional blah blah blah
Planck-string-electron-atom-molecule-microtubule-neuron = Big Brane Theory
What constitutes the “lens” of the pineal gland?
Also consider that the numbers for
Brain Capacity vs. Actually Used
Dark Matter vs. Matter
Junk DNA vs. DNA
Warp wrap your mynd
interholognstic purpulsions systems
push past old forms
formulating the formost
Over the new will
Dreaming mynd trpt
Let go im ripped
DNA holoports split like serpents
coining phrases with
i slip unseen
like a forest knome
through portals of trance
was it ever so together
that you could say