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Posted: 15 August 2007 09:07 PM   [ Ignore ]  
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Greetings!

We all know how incredibly detailed and layered the music of Shpongle and other Twisted artists is.  I am curious as to what kind of playback equipment you all are using to render those 1’s and 0’s into sound. 

Shpongle records serve as excellent system references for me; they’ve been very helpful in pinpointing the strengths and weaknesses of different equipment.  Whether it’s uneven frequency response, muddy transients or a squashed stereo image, Shpongle always unearths the subtleties in my audio electronics.

I’ll start - The premium playback system, at the moment, is my Sennheiser HD-650 headphones with a stock cable being driven by a Yamaha RV-1105 receiver.  This is obviously not ideal; I’m fine with the stock cable, although many Sennheiser enthusiasts insist that an upgraded cable from Cardas or Stefan Art ‘removes a veil’ or something to that effect.  In my professional opinion, the big stink about cables and interconnects in hi-fi audio is about 95% snake oil and marketing, but I really don’t want to start that debate on this fine forum.  What is not ideal is that I’m using an integrated receiver/preamp/loudspeaker amp to drive the headphones.  Within a few weeks, I’ll finish building my CK

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Posted: 22 August 2007 04:12 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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Good topic!

I have a Sony STR-DE545 amp,Fisher 14 band (7 per channel) EQ-272 eq,A pair of Senn HD 465 headphones,Fisher STV-692 mains w/matching surround sound speakers.

I run my music via the pc through the eq and then into the amp.I use winamp with Version 0.17 enhancer.

Needless to say,I have an awesome sounding set up,its not the best by far,but as long as it sounds good to me,Im happy.

For sure,you can not beat Senn’s..they are awesome,I have not changed the stock cable with it,but I will eventually.

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Posted: 23 August 2007 04:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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I know, I have the worst system smile

No idea about all this stuff, but I just use my PC:
Soundcard: (Internal) Creative X-FI XtremeMusic {EAX [ON|0.0db] |CMSS 3D usually [OFF (unless I want the sound on all speakers)] |Crystalizer [OFF] | Digital Output [48kHz]
Headphones: Speedlink Medusa 5.1 “Gamer Headphones”
Speakers: Creative Inspire T5900
Music ripped: AAC 192 kb/s (stereo) | VBR | Optimized for MMX/SSE2
or if purchased thru iTunes then the shitty 128kb/s (stereo).
iPod 5G with the in-ear earbugs.

If anyone knows what’s the best settings for Audio on the X-Fi series, please let me know. F.ex: Should I use 96kHz Digital Output? etc. As far as I understood, all the converting and extra features happen in realtime, with these cards.

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Posted: 23 August 2007 05:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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Ray, a few comments…and bear in mind that I value ‘fidelity’, not ‘quality.’ Fidelity is simply the accuracy of a reproduced signal compared to the source signal.  It’s objective and quantifiable.  Quality, on the other hand, is totally subjective.  To illustrate my point, if I were to run a song through an outboard compressor to give the sound more ‘punch’ or to decrease the dynamic range, one could rightfully say that the compressed signal sounds better to them, and therefore the ‘quality’ is higher.  However, they would be 100% incorrect to say that the fidelity is better on the compressed signal.

-It’s good that you do not use the DSPs on your soundcard.  These are mostly for the use of gamers and they will only colour the sound of music.
-With regards to sampling rates (this is a touchy subject in the audio community), I have the view that the best thing to do to the signal is to impact it the least.  So, considering that standard audio is recorded at 44.1kHz, I use 44.1kHz as the sampling rate. Any higher than this is ‘oversampling’ and will not yield any real advantage over the normal rate.  If you have something like a SACD that is actually recorded at 96kHz, then you’d be well-advised to up the sampling rate.
-I would strongly recommend easing out of computer speakers for your playback system.  For what you get, they are exorbitantly priced compared to regular loudspeakers.  My main problems with them are (1) terrible low frequency response (those computer ‘subwoofers’ are an insult to subwoofers everywhere) and (2) the cheap amplification stage built into the speaker.  If you want a powered speaker, go for a powered monitor from Alesis, M-Audio or even something more high-end.  Otherwise, I’d say get a pair of half-decent loudspeakers and an amp and just hook your PC into one of the amp’s auxiliary inputs.  If your PC is far away, get an amp with a decent onboard DAC and send a digital signal to it.  That way, you don’t have to worry about line noise along the length of your cable, since the signal is in the digital domain.  However, I hesitate to tell you to use a digital signal in every case because there’s a possibility that your sound card has a better DAC than the amp.
-Given what good taste you have in music, I think you really owe it to yourself to get some good playback equipment.  I would also avoid low-baud MP3s…and I cannot understand why any store would sell something like 128 kbps.

My vote would be for a pair of high-quality headphones.  Headphones like my Sennheiser HD-650, or some of AKG’s or Grado’s high-end models, sound as good as speakers costing 10x more than they do.  A good headphone + amp setup is by far the best bang for your buck.  If you’re into woodworking at all, you can build yourself some good loudspeakers as a project; there’s all kinds of resources available.  And you can even build your own amp, preamp, DAC and CD transport if you’re into electronics!  I love the internet.

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Posted: 23 August 2007 10:12 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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Thanks a lot for the info… I bought it more for gaming too, and I don’t have cash to use ATM, but when I plan to buy some good audio stuff, I’ll pass by here and ask smile

I didn’t quite understand this part:

Ray, a few comments…and bear in mind that I value ‘fidelity’, not ‘quality.’ Fidelity is simply the accuracy of a reproduced signal compared to the source signal. It’s objective and quantifiable. Quality, on the other hand, is totally subjective. To illustrate my point, if I were to run a song through an outboard compressor to give the sound more ‘punch’ or to decrease the dynamic range, one could rightfully say that the compressed signal sounds better to them, and therefore the ‘quality’ is higher. However, they would be 100% incorrect to say that the fidelity is better on the compressed signal.

I usually have the feeling that keeping it as much as possible like it is on the CDs, no extra stuff, keeping all extra options off and also not using the equalizer to adjust anything. I have an option for X-Fi Crystalizer, that gives more punch and makes the less clear sounds more clear, but I usually have that off too. Then I have something called SVM.
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SVM monitors and controls the dynamic range of sound volume. When enabled, it limits the volume differences between the loudest and softest passages of songs in order to avoid large volume fluctuations during playback.


That I have turned off too.

EAX I will turn off now, since I guess that it’s only for movies and games.

X-Fi CMSS-3D is just so it plays on all speakers (and some game stuff, so distant sounds sound closer).

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Posted: 23 August 2007 11:45 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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Hi Ray,

You interpreted what I said correctly; I think listeners should leave the signal alone and let it be heard as the producer wanted it to.  This is the mindset of high fidelity.  There is another valid school of thought that accepts the notion that artificial coloration of the material (be it adding reverb via DSP, putting a tube output stage in the amplifier to add ‘tube warmth’, or running it through a compressor, which is exactly what that ‘SVM’ you described is.) can sound better to us, even if it wasn’t originally present.  Because loudspeaker drivers’ frequency response and a room’s acoustics can change the sound once it’s in the mechanical (i.e. sound) domain, I think both schools of thought are valid.  I still am inclined to get better equipment than try to mask their flaws, though.

For your next birthday or holiday, ask for some high-end headphones.  You won’t regret it. wink

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Posted: 24 August 2007 10:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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My system:

Intergrated Amplifier NAIM NAIT 5i
CDP NAIM 5x
Loudspeakers PROAC STUDIO 125

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Posted: 24 September 2007 05:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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Dynaudio bm6a Monitors,mac g5 hard drive out of m audio firewire 410 soundcard through a mackie sr4-4 mixer…......................gorgeous.

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Posted: 28 September 2007 02:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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My home studio listening is Alesis Monitor 1 speakers and a Cambridge Audio A1 amp,  nice and flat response. Downstairs is a Pioneer 5.1 amp with Wharfedale Diamond speakers (no sub necessary). Not brilliant, but I’m pretty happy with the sound.
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