i wrote a lot more, then realized it was pointless to waste my time so i edited it down to make it easy for you to understand.

here is proof you’re wrong. here’s a scan from the back of a CD i pulled out of my collection.

notice it’s from the FBI and DoJ… ANTI PIRACY… and read any cd you own from a real label and it will say something about “unauthorized duplication/distribution is illegal”... go ahead.. try and tell me that US law is opinion… haha. go to your local FBI office and give them your argument… then enjoy getting laughed at

how is that not a fact?

i’m done now. i hate talking to brick walls.

boomselecta.

heh, cause we alllllllll know the US government is ALWAYSSSSSS right.

I think sharing CD’s is not the same as downloading as it has a human touch to it and can actually promote music sales as it is about friends getting each other into different music. I my case I brought Hallucinogen in Dub and played it to my friends, one of whom brought Blumencraft. I copied blumencraft and I like that so I will buy Skylon. A similar thing happend with YB and Shpongle. Now I don’t have much money, so I can’t afford all the albums, but I make sure all the artists music who I listen I support with some purchases, and I would definately go to thier shows, as would my friends who are also into their music. By swapping music physically with CD’s you encorage support for the act much more than simply downloading thier music form the internet as it gets more people involved in thier music and you talk about about how much you like the CD’s and stuff.

All the cd’s I have bought I’ve shared with my girlfriend. Am I bad? She would go nuts if I said she had to buy her own copy and then I wouldn’t get those pleasures that come with the relationship hehehehe

At least the FBI isn’t hot on the trail of the DAT track trading going on in Goa, Manali & Thailand.

i think sex for music is ok. hahahahahaha.

shit.. i wrote a song for my girl and got booty… so we know it works!

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i think sex for music is ok. hahahahahaha.

shit.. i wrote a song for my girl and got booty… so we know it works!

I also wrote a track after one year of us being together. I still haven’t quite finished it but it’s probably the best I’ve written. I might just get around to finishing it off and I’ll put it up.

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i’ve thought about it a lot and decided that the best solution would be some donation system on artists’ websites so even if you download some tracks (its pretty possible you cant order some rare compilation released several years ago), you could still pay for it.

another point is the money actually earned by an artist when you buy a cd - i’ve read a book on music production and if i’m not mistaken it said the artist gets smth around 10% or even 5% from 1 sold copy - all the rest goes on production/promotion costs and to the label, then a part on marketing and to the shop, so if you donate $20 for an album directly to an artist, he’ll get 10 times more

this is the conclusion I came to when pondering the music sharing/stealing issue.  The more people steal the album instead of buy it, the more likely the artist is to go bankrupt.  not too likely, but statements such as “it’s not likely” are precisely the statements that start wars and destroy planets.

so say you have 100 pirated cd’s.  the artists only receive 50 cents - 2 dollars per album sold.
So wouldn’t it be better for the artist (while at the same time promoting a de-bastardization of music corporate giants) to simply donate $2 per cd?  makes much more sense to me.  that is, IF you cannot afford to buy the music.  You should not be sore out of luck simply because you don’t have enough money to pay… everyone should get shpongled!  Let’s not imply otherwise, you pissy persons.

Well Radiohead and NIN(trent Reznor) have both been giving the donation thing a go. NIN was first :O Plus Trent realeases most of his music to the public in editable form. He also produced Saul Williams’ newest album and convinced him to do the donation thing as well. Seems that $5 seems to be the magic number. I think that in 10-20 years from now Trent Reznor will be a major music icon in the influence on evolving how music is presented and sold to the public. But whether it is good or bad, only time will tell.

I’ve never downloaded any of the Twisted cd’s as I always want an original copy but as there’s so much good stuff to buy it’s impossible not to.

So if the coin is tight then yes I down load off a file sharing site but the one I used got done a few weeks back…oink!!

I tend to fall on the side of buying the album and supporting the artist when at all possible. 

but what about out of print albums or cds that are ONLY available if your buddy has it or for download/share/steal?

radioactivesandwich wrote: here is proof you’re wrong. here’s a scan from the back of a CD i pulled out of my collection.

I support the music business and i do agree with most of your points man, but wtf does the FBI have to do with this shit? I believe they are also responsible for the illegalization of weed and other substances, which have served for inspiration to some artists on this label. man we’re talkin about the most organized form of corruption on the face of the planet, the real mafia, fuck the sopranos. Who’s the government to decide whats right or wrong artistically wise anyways? Politics and religion are the most organized forms of corruption, and they do nothing but restrain artistic expression, with all the"sin and you’ll go to hell” bullshit, and the Parental Advisory shit. Art is the ultimate way of spiritual expression, and politics is the complete opposite so just leave them out of this topic.

[quote author=“Zurr0”][quote author=“EbelEyes”]Its sharing… not stealing?

No, its stealing because its not yours.

If you make a track and you want to copy it and give it to your friends then feel free.

That is sharing.

Now don’t get me wrong. I think that the world of downloads has done some good. For instance, I do the same thing as slice two. If its good, then by all means support it. If it sucks, delete it.

how is downloading from someone else in the world different then receiving it from a neighbor friend? Either way, you are getting it for “free”

I don’t think you understand what I was trying to say.

What I said is if you make a track and want to give it to your friends, feel free to give it to them for free. Its sharing because its yours.