Being a total wax-cunt, I was wondering if these two tracks is to be found on vinyl?

If Simon is releasing a “single” for the new album (like Bejia Floor last time), maybe he could put’em on there? :D

PS - My first post, weeeee.   Love the twisted music and twisted community! Keep it going strong all!!!

As a fellow vinyl collector (and owner of all 3 Shpongle LPs) I was miffed as well that these two tracks are not included.  After a bit of thinking, I realized that it wasn’t as bad as I thought because, given that Shpongle is sequenced on a computer, it originates in the digital domain, and therefore there is no sound quality advantage to getting the vinyl (analog) format.  The main difference is whether you want your CD player/PC/DAC to do the conversion or whether you want whoever pressed the vinyl to do it.

Analog media theoretically can have greater fidelity than digital media for obvious reasons (although for audio,  tape is far superior to vinyl in this regard) but in practice, unless EVERY component in the analog chain is maniacally engineered for low noise and perfect frequency response, an analog setup will not sound any better than a digital setup.  And as I mentioned above, this is only pertinent for ANALOG recordings, not digital recordings (you’d be hard-pressed to find a true analog recording of an electronica record made in the last 25 years).

Well there’s an aurgument to be had here.

Believe me, I’m not against vinyl…I have 5 crates of it!

But I’m also an engineer with a lot of background in EE, so before I proceed, let me change a critical word in my statement….from a fidelity standpoint (not sound quality, which is subjective), there is no advantage…

The main difference in perceived quality is not the vinyl itself, but rather the fact that a signal taken off of a vinyl has to go through an additional stage called a phono stage to boost it up to the 2Vrms line level (or in some pro audio applications, 7Vrms), and certain phono stages can add coloration that one can find pleasant.  This phenomenon is akin to audiophiles liking vacuum tube circuits better than transistor circuits for amplifiers, even if well-designed transistor circuits have distortion that is orders of magnitude below that of vacuum tube circuits. (I’m currently building a vacuum tube headphone amp, so I may be one of those ‘loons’)

The only reason I can think of that an electronica vinyl could have an advantage is if it were mastered in the analog domain, and the vinyl was pressed directly off of the analog master copy.  Given that Ott has an analog studio, this is not impossible in the case of Shpongle.  Even then, it’s a competition between your phono stage and your CD player’s DAC.  But I can’t imagine many electronica records are mastered in an analog studio.

Besides, I’d rather hold this view than be sad that we were deprived of juicy analog copies of two great tracks.

Well, you learn something new everyday :D

I too have all the LP’s, and also Younger Brother.

But it isn’t all about the sound quality for me in this case, it’s just that I mainly listen to vinyls at a daily basis. I don’t even have a stand alone CD player. If I “must” listen to something on CD, I just hook up my laptop

That’s the main reason for wanting those tracks on vinyl.

The second reason is…..you guessed it, vinyl Roxx!!!  :D

Re: Vapour Rumours and Behind Closed Eyelids on vinyl?

[quote author=“KimSSI”]Being a total wax-cunt, I was wondering if these two tracks is to be found on vinyl?

If Simon is releasing a “single” for the new album (like Bejia Floor last time), maybe he could put’em on there? :D

PS - My first post, weeeee.   Love the twisted music and twisted community! Keep it going strong all!!!

Rumours of Vapours (original title) and Behind Closed Eyelids were on the Infinite Excursions 1 & 2 vinyl respectively.  I have both of them somewhere around here I think.  Inf Exc 1 is pretty widely available on discogs but 2 doesn’t seem to be.

Re: Vapour Rumours and Behind Closed Eyelids on vinyl?

[quote author=“Big Bottom”][quote author=“KimSSI”]Being a total wax-cunt, I was wondering if these two tracks is to be found on vinyl?

If Simon is releasing a “single” for the new album (like Bejia Floor last time), maybe he could put’em on there? :D

PS - My first post, weeeee.   Love the twisted music and twisted community! Keep it going strong all!!!

Rumours of Vapours (original title) and Behind Closed Eyelids were on the Infinite Excursions 1 & 2 vinyl respectively.  I have both of them somewhere around here I think.  Inf Exc 1 is pretty widely available on discogs but 2 doesn’t seem to be.

Keep a hold of them on vinyl I’d think they’ll be quite rare in time.  I think that the mix of behind closed eyelids is slightly different.  The album version seems to have extra bits added in.

[quote author=“KimSSI”]
But it isn’t all about the sound quality for me in this case, it’s just that I mainly listen to vinyls at a daily basis. I don’t even have a stand alone CD player. If I “must” listen to something on CD, I just hook up my laptop

That’s the main reason for wanting those tracks on vinyl.

The second reason is…..you guessed it, vinyl Roxx!!!  :D

Yap, there’s just something “more” in listening to vinyls, the little crackling sounds that you start to hear when you drop the needle on a vinyl and that kind of aesthetic little things. Also the fact that you have to change side in a middle of an album (or even twice + one time of changing the vinyl to another if you have an 2 x LP)  brings music a little closer to you, I mean that the music won’t just flow in the backround while you’re doing something else because when you have to put some effort for your listening experience, you’ll pay more attention to the music itself too.

Damn, if i had a credit card I would have already ordered the first two albums in vinyl. I think I’m starting to accept the fact that i can’t get em so now I’m planning to order those albums in cd, since i found a web store that accepts a payment method that suits for me I have already found only the last album and the “Remixed” album in finnish record stores so I still have this huge gap in my collection.  :oops:

ah! love shpongle on vinyl
its so much fun to manipulate the speed and tone on the deck and mixer, and mixing it with other beats…very difficult but extremely rewarding

only wish i got a hold of the Remixed Shpongle LP before it was sold out

There’s actually a 12” release of these two tracks on T.I.P. but it’s pretty much impossible to get a hold of.

For a while I was actually considering buying the Vestax wax cutter to create my own 12” of those tracks (among other things)... but I ended up getting some 1000mk3’s instead.

[quote author=“Sivanesa”]ah! love shpongle on vinyl
its so much fun to manipulate the speed and tone on the deck and mixer, and mixing it with other beats…very difficult but extremely rewarding

only wish i got a hold of the Remixed Shpongle LP before it was sold out

Sold out?  It’s in the Twisted Shop as i type.

[quote author=“OmnilimbO”][quote author=“Sivanesa”]ah! love shpongle on vinyl
its so much fun to manipulate the speed and tone on the deck and mixer, and mixing it with other beats…very difficult but extremely rewarding

only wish i got a hold of the Remixed Shpongle LP before it was sold out

Sold out?  It’s in the Twisted Shop as i type.

well it’s in the merchandise page on this website, but as you go through the order process you can’t get past the delivery address and on to payment because discretely written on the bottom it says that they are ‘out of stock’ aka none available and not plannin on makin more
i tried to buy it already and was frustrated for a few days about it, emailing the crap out of twistedrecords and then i read the fine print…unfortunately so