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Posted: 30 January 2008 01:55 AM   [ Ignore ]  
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Hello everyone!
You all here certainly love music. And you surely have some device to play it on. What are your best experiences with mp3 players? Which one do you use, if it has some significance for you?
Do you know the Disclosure by Michael Crichton? (also the film, I have just read the book) If you do, you’ll understand my relationship with technics. Sometimes these products works (or rather doesn’t work) like they’d go right off a conveyor belt in the factory of the Crichton’s story. I think, the technical parameters coming with each music player should include a promiles of alcohol in blood of a Malaysian tribesman who manufactured the device in a Malaysian factory for cheap electronics. Otherwise it is like I can’t enjoy a music until I perform a ritual of Sacred Reclamation and thus satisfy a bloodthirsty Malaysian demon, hidden in a music player, avenging it’s creator’s social situation.

I had a CD-MP3 player, Sony D-NE 511 for almost four years, and I have to say, it was a brilliant piece of technics. Costed 150$. It played almost every day, for several hours, at every temperature (-30 to +35 C), at harsh circumstances (sports, hard work, school) and lasted for 80 hours per two AA(? you know, these normal) batteries! It made my life hurt less. The belt bag is considered to be the least sexy piece of clothing, but I didn’t care, I carried it everywhere with me anyway. This player was like an eternal certainity, when about 10 headphones came and went to their retirement. It was almost like from a communism era, these old electronic devices are also unbelievably persistent, nowadays such a quality can’t be even bought for a reasonable price.

After the CD player stopped working, I tried some other devices borrowed from family supplies, but they were of low quality and half working.
On the Christmas I received a mp3 player as a gift - I had to return it to the shop just after, because the joypad had a major glitch and it lacked some important functions.
After I received my money back, I bought just yerstaday Hyundai MP 828 FM SPORT. While I’m writing this, Celtic Cross: Hicksville is playing. So far, it seems like a great choice. I picked it after a five minutes as a first thing in my sight, so probably a higher power led my steps, because it’s almost perfect. Costed 70 dollars, and it took all my cash, and still because of an “ecologic discard ing fee” I almost couldn’t pay it, but fortunately I found a 25 cent coin in my pocket, which saved the day. (all mentioned currency is converted to dollars as 1:20)
It looks just like a common memory stick with small 1 color display, the kind which is not fashionable in the age of tiny postmark-sized players or luxury big-displayed multimedia devices with 80 GB, like i-Pod. You can google up the design, anyway - you’ll see it’s quite repelling (I’ve even got that light blue-white, lol). It is also made of a very ordinary plastic, no fancy metal, rubber, or any smoother shiny plastic.

It has no joystick thingy on it, just buttons, so it is easy to control. What I’ve made sure of, is a good memory function, it remembers where exactly the song stopped (even if turned off and battery taken away), which for example, the Christmas player surprisingly didn’t have. It’s extremely important with several hours long psy-chill-ambient mixes, but somehow this technical parameter isn’t really mentioned anywhere in documentation. It also has a forward and rewind functions (a bit slow, I think, but nice anyway), FM radio, 2GB of memory, txt e-book reading mode (kinda cool, lol), phone number viewer, kind-of clock (not very reliable, but nice), a microphone - thus recording (meant for voice) in various qualities, various colourful display lighting, equalizer with some pre-sets, an option of encrypted memory part, and so on… The display is normal LCD, but well designed, thus there’s a lot of track and player statistics on small space. Just the track name scrolling should be a lot faster (people can read quickly), but that’s a problem of the most players. It supports my language, (besides English and Polish) and surprisingly well, the only letter it can’t display is ť (pronounciated as a soft T) but maybe with a firmware update it will. It comes with a small bag for it on an arm elastic band (must look cool while sporting), also it has quite a big holding loop (fits well on my thick leather lace pendant). Dunno about the battery usage, it much depends on a battery type, mAh, and so on.

What made me a bit displeased, it sometimes just switched off, not remembering the actual track position. I discussed it with salesman, he suggested updating the firmware, but so far, the problem seems to disappear when I replaced an 1-use battery with a rechargeable (and highly recharged) one. Or the Malaysian tech gremlin just got scared away. I hope he won’t be coming back any soon. Also, I don’t like the connection thingy - it is that tiny USB-ish female connector, covered by quite annoying rubber cover, and it must be connected to a computer by a special converting cable (like some cameras). I know the tiny female connector keeps the player shape small, aerodynamic and sporty, but I prefer a real big male USB. (“male” and “female” are here technical connector description therms, you’ve got the point). And a final major complain, it somehow doesn’t have a “hold” function.

Verdict: dunno, how soon the pieces will start fall of it, but this mp3 player has much more than I ever hoped for.  I dare to hope there are some happy years together ahead of us. I will keep it with care like an eye in head, or even more, like a keys of my college room.

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Posted: 31 January 2008 11:17 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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I use a NW-A800 Sony 4gb. I’m happy with the most part but the battery life isn’t great and also the library and loading tracks takes some getting used to. It has a hold function though LOL  LOL Overall I would say 7,5/10 maybe an 8 now I’m used to loading tracks and albums into it

I used to have an ipod photo 30gb but that pissed me off something. itunes destroyed my well put together and easy to follow music library by making it’s own folders and spreading my tracks around everywhere. This took me about 8 hours to fix, would of taken longer if I hadn’t had a backup of an earlier version of my library.

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Posted: 31 January 2008 03:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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iTunes did the very same thing to me… Bastards!

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Posted: 31 January 2008 03:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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[quote author=“DiMuTech”]I used to have an ipod photo 30gb but that pissed me off something. itunes destroyed my well put together and easy to follow music library by making it’s own folders and spreading my tracks around everywhere. This took me about 8 hours to fix, would of taken longer if I hadn’t had a backup of an earlier version of my library.

iTunes did the very same thing to me… Bastards!

When you install itunes, there is an option to have it automatically organize folders and files for you, or you can select to do it yourself. You can also change this setting in the options menu.

Don’t blame the software, blame the user.

Itunes has elevated to a whole new level within the past year or so.
I’ve used LOTS of music players, and I’ve got to say that itunes is best.

It’s the easiest to use, the easiest to navigate, and it has lots of hidden extras that you can use at your disposal.

Yep, itunes is the way to go…..  :D

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Posted: 31 January 2008 07:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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itunes is good only if you didnt already have a folder system that is different than what itunes wants to put it in, such as in DiMuTech’s case. I’ve always had a mac, so there really wasnt any other good choice for me.

Ive heard foobar2000 is supposed to be good for windows users, because its really customizable in the way you can make it look, such as:

it could be as plain as this:
Foobar_1.png

or as elaborate as this:
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as far as mp3 players, I just got a 160GB ipod classic for the birthday. mainly just got the ipod cause its easy and it has more than enough room for all my music, I didnt get it just to be like everyone else rolleyes

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Posted: 31 January 2008 09:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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When you install itunes, there is an option to have it automatically organize folders and files for you, or you can select to do it yourself. You can also change this setting in the options menu.

Don’t blame the software, blame the user.
[...]
It’s the easiest to use, the easiest to navigate, and it has lots of hidden extras that you can use at your disposal.

(italics added.)

iTunes sucks, because it fucks up your folders by deafult - only after a couple of weeks, when you realise that iTunes have raped your catalog, do you find out about the hidden feature which protects your folders and computer.

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Posted: 31 January 2008 09:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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I’m going to have to go ahead and agree with the common sentiment here - iTunes is a horrible media player that integrates itself into your system shell WAY too much.  It’s the Borg of media players.  Not only does it re-organize music collections, but it also likes to convert any and all audio it finds into Apple’s PROPRIETARY format.  I cannot think of ANY other company that does this.

I’m a proud foobar2000 user.  It plays almost every format right out of the box, it consumes virtually no system resources and it has an extremely customizable GUI.

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Posted: 31 January 2008 10:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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[quote author=“moodysteve”]I’m going to have to go ahead and agree with the common sentiment here - iTunes is a horrible media player that integrates itself into your system shell WAY too much.  It’s the Borg of media players.  Not only does it re-organize music collections, but it also likes to convert any and all audio it finds into Apple’s PROPRIETARY format.  I cannot think of ANY other company that does this.

This is a load of crap.

As I stated before, itunes does not reorganize your music files unless you tell it to do so!

It does not convert songs into its own proprietary format!
YOU choose the setting for how you want audio to be played and converted.

Don’t shoot down a program just because you don’t know how to use it!

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Posted: 31 January 2008 10:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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I have to agree with Cloudwalker, and I too get frustrated by people saying how shit I-tunes is. And sorry but that PROPRIETARY format thing is bollocks, it keeps it’s original format for me, but to be fair I get pissed that it doesn’t play FLAC. Mainly I like it because how easy everything is, especially syncing with I-pod.

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Posted: 01 February 2008 11:12 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]  
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Ok it was a while back I used itunes. It converted tracks to AAC when I installed it. It would take forever.

Anyway the guy’s topic is about mp3 players. Which mp3 players do you lot use?

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Posted: 01 February 2008 04:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]  
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[quote author=“DiMuTech”]Anyway the guy’s topic is about mp3 players. Which mp3 players do you lot use?

Ipod touch.
Kickass with the videos and the web browser.  :D
LOTS of cool addons too!

The new Zune is pretty cool too. My buddy has one.

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Posted: 01 February 2008 05:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]  
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Cowon X5.  Plays lossy and lossless formats without any mods, has an excellent (and publicly disclosed) SNR and even has a line out for connecting to external amps.  And if you’re half competent with a soldering iron, you can upgrade the batteries or hard drives yourself, as I have.  And your computer sees it as an external hard drive; there’s no front-end software required to browse it or copy to/from it.

Cowon is very popular amongst portable audiophiles, but it’s a small company who can’t afford to heavily advertise.

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