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Posted: 17 December 2008 11:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 106 ]  
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seriously… how do you guys stay in business? not trying to be rude, but we both work at labels in the US and if this shit happened as often with us as it did with you, we’d have shut down shop ages ago due to fans just telling us to fuck off.

you know we love you and your music and worship the speakers that push the sounds into our eardrums, but this is just starting to get offensive. this is what, the 3rd album in a ROW to be delayed? not to mention the fact that this is the 2nd time this particular album has been delayed!

how are we, as fans, supposed to feel when the artists/label can’t respect us enough to get shit done on time? you’re basically saying to us “we know you’re going to buy our music no matter what, so we don’t really care if you get it when we said you were going to get it.”

Finally, someone who isnt sucking twisted’s balls like they are golden nuggets!
Let me clarify my position here.  The thing that is most offensive to me is delaying the release ON THE DAY of the release!  Sure, shit happens.  We get that.  Lame as it its to us who are anxiously awaiting, some things are beyond control.  A heads up BEFORE the release date would go a long way.  And yes…just release the music as a download and yes that IS truly lame if the actual music isnt done when a commitment is given.

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Posted: 18 December 2008 12:05 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 107 ]  
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I’m not purchasing this album from Twisted, that is for sure.
I will pay Ott via his website, but I’m not supporting the record company that keeps failing to deliver their products.
I would like to own a hard copy eventually…perhaps eBay?

Hopefully their next album will be delivered when promised, and I will feel better about purchasing it from them.

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Posted: 18 December 2008 12:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 108 ]  
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Finally, someone who isnt sucking twisted’s balls like they are golden nuggets!

Not to sure what that is supposed to mean?..Look,I am a Twisted junkie just like the rest of you are,we are all fans and sure it is a disappointment that the album was not released,but you have to remember,Twisted is not some huge corporate conglomerate record company like Sony et al.

Twisted puts out quality music,and if they feel the need to delay something,I am sure there is a good reason for it.

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Posted: 18 December 2008 01:33 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 109 ]  
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I just read the shpongle live in austrailia thread .
It seems Twisted is going through a lot of shit right now….
My guess?
They were completely ready for the November release, then all this came up.

I may retract my previous statement about not purchasing…
We’ll see how all this plays out….
We should all shut up and lie low for a while…  rolleyes

I’m done posting in this topic until the release is out.

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Posted: 18 December 2008 12:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 110 ]  
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here’s an idea for twisted. how about announcing the release of a new album when you actually have a batch of records in your office ready for shipping. the fans would buy it without any promoing before, or a simple press release telling a new album is forthcoming, without a release date.

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Posted: 18 December 2008 04:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 111 ]  
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don’t get us wrong, we do love twisted and the tunes, but we just think it’s getting old.

and smaller labels usually have an easier time making their release dates because they don’t have the massive amounts of BS that bigger labels have.

and we don’t need xanax, we need an on-time album from twisted…

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Posted: 19 December 2008 05:47 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 112 ]  
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I seriously can’t believe the amount of winging and hissy fits. Take it easy. You are lucky to be able to hear such great music with all the crap that is circulating out there. How many outstanding albums have Twisted released in the past? In my opinion more than any other label I know of. I can’t believe that some of you have the audacity to slag off such great artists - you can say that I am ‘sucking twisted balls’ but they have managed to provide me over the years with music that has continually warmed the cockles of my heart - what have you done? Good things come to those who wait….deal with it.

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Posted: 19 December 2008 06:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 113 ]  
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I agree with Rams! If you don’t like the wait then put your brain to work and start making the music that you want to hear. With all of the repetitive rubbish out there today there is so much room for someone to totally take advantage of this fact if you have the talent, skill and uniqueness required to stand out. The reason you guys are bitching is because of the total lack of quality material available thus putting 99% of the focus on Twisted. This kind of music is challenging to make so give Simon, Benji and Ott the room that they need as artists and businessmen to do what they do best. I do however wish that the communication between the Twisted staff and the fans was more open and current. The updates and interaction seems few and far in between to me, for example the “artist blogs” have been dead for a long time (WHY???). Maybe the future V4 website update will be business smart and create more of a connection between the artist and the appreciative fans out there.  : )

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Posted: 19 December 2008 08:50 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 114 ]  
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You guys seem to misunderstand that Twisted simply delivers the music these artists make.
Nobody was chaffing off the brilliant masterminds that create the music we so love.
Everybody is pissed at the distributor of that music.

It’s like going to a restaurant that you love and ordering your favorite steak from the chef.
The chef makes it with tender love and care. Gets it ready for you to enjoy and love…
Oh but theres a catch!
The waiter refuses to deliver your steak to you…
So you wait….and wait….and wait…
The waiter says your steak will be right out…..
But you sit and wait…..and wait….
He finally gives the steak to you….
But by now it feels old, the excitement is lost…
and you’re pretty pissed about it…

It’s not the chef’s fault….
It’s the deliverer of the steak.

You wouldn’t want to pay the waiter after that, right?
But you certainly would want to pay the chef for his amazing talent and consideration!

Btw, need we mention that this is the 3rd or 4th time the waiter has delayed your order?
But you keep coming back because the food is delicious….

And it make you oooooooh so happy.  :D

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Posted: 19 December 2008 04:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 115 ]  
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very well said cloudwalker! couldnt agree with u more. im tired of seeing these people defend twisted so vehemently while they just keep mucking shit up. its important that they see the fans disappointment. this is really just unacceptable. november, then december, then “i dunno.” no one is arguing the quality of the music, we all know it is brilliant, but the way they go about these cancellations is unacceptable.

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Posted: 19 December 2008 04:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 116 ]  
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we’re not badmouthing the artists in anyway. we’re badmouthing the business model that allows for 3 consecutive releases being delayed by months at a time. we love all the music and listen to it almost daily if not more so. we preach the gospel of shpongle constantly. we just tell people not to expect new albums on time.

oh… and we DO write the music we want to hear… so raspberry

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Posted: 19 December 2008 07:39 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 117 ]  
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The artists are Twisted, this is a small Indie label. If you think that Simon P. doesn’t have any influence over business decisions then I think you’re in denial. This is their music, their label and their business so let them dictate how they either successfully or unsuccessfully operate it. If you guys had pre-paid for an album that had a promised release date then you have a valid argument. If this has happened three times then I really see your point. But to ged mad and cranky isn’t going to help the situation at all in my opinion. I’m sure the crew at Twisted are aware that there is a problem and if they want to tell us why then they will. I just hope they don’t stop communicating information with us because guests of their forum and website get cranky like spoiled rotten children. Just my opinions, if you don’t like them then start your own label and see if you can do better.

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Posted: 19 December 2008 08:12 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 118 ]  
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and if they want to tell us why then they will. I just hope they don’t stop communicating information with us because guests of their forum and website get cranky like spoiled rotten children.

If you ran a business and you stopped providing customer service because your customers were complaining about shitty customer service…....that would be weak and you would be stupid….seeing how you only exist because you have customers. rolleyes

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Posted: 19 December 2008 08:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 119 ]  
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[quote author=“Airspeed”]The artists are Twisted, this is a small Indie label. If you think that Simon P. doesn’t have any influence over business decisions then I think you’re in denial. This is their music, their label and their business so let them dictate how they either successfully or unsuccessfully operate it. If you guys had pre-paid for an album that had a promised release date then you have a valid argument. If this has happened three times then I really see your point. But to ged mad and cranky isn’t going to help the situation at all in my opinion. I’m sure the crew at Twisted are aware that there is a problem and if they want to tell us why then they will. I just hope they don’t stop communicating information with us because guests of their forum and website get cranky like spoiled rotten children. Just my opinions, if you don’t like them then start your own label and see if you can do better.

dude… we both work for small indie labels, as well as write and release all our own music. we know how the business works. we’re well aware of how an indie label should run, and we can assure you that this isn’t the right way to do it.

if the artists “are twisted”, as you say, then maybe it’s time they hired some people that aren’t artists so shit can get done on time. artists that own their own label are all well and good, but you end up with a business model that isn’t always productive or fair to the fans. you can’t expect an artist (like si p) who’s working on 15 different releases, to also have the time of day to do all the label administration that needs to be done in order to have a timely release. it’s just a lot of work. we only have one project going, and we can tell you from experience that trying to write and mix/master the tunes, do all the administration and design, PR, promotions, marketing, etc., takes a LOT of time and if we could hire people to do it for us, we would, but we can’t and so instead of setting release dates for our stuff, we don’t announce the actual date until the product is in the hands of those distributing it. it’s a pain, and sometimes it means a release date isn’t announced until a week before, but at least we’re not getting peoples hopes up then shooting them down. we’re by no means as big or as successful as twisted, but that doesn’t mean we can’t do our best to respect our fans and stick to our word.

getting mad and cranky and telling twisted that they’re fucking up is something we, as the consumer, has the right to do. we’re unhappy with how the services are provided. you realize that this album, along with ott, and younger brother, were delayed multiple times each. and yet instead of learning from the mistakes, it just keeps happening.

as said before, there’s a reason the digital distribution model is so great. if a phyiscal release is delayed because of art, plant problems, weather, shipping, etc., then the album can still be released digitally. for example, we preorder the CD, and get the songs to download for free (since most of us will probably rip them for our ipods anyway). that way people get the music when we were told it would be released and not strung along till the DAY BEFORE THE RELEASE.

we will always support twisted and listen to the tunes and go to the shows and tell people all about them, but that doesn’t mean we’re ok with being jerked around multiple times. it just ain’t right!

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Posted: 19 December 2008 08:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 120 ]  
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Again, if you don’t like what you see then go somewhere else. Oh, I almost forgot that you CAN’T because there isn’t anywhere else to go worth two cents. And if you do go somewhere else it’s usually a weak attempt at imitating someone else. You guys act like Twisted owes you all something. If you all are pissed for the third time in a row for whatever reason then maybe you need to ask yourself why you keep doing this again and again and again. If you keep going back to that restaurant with so called “crappy service” then maybe the food they serve is better than the rest. Getting in the managers face of a place that you walked into time after time probably won’t help get your food to the table any quicker. Get my point???? (probably not…..)

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