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Posted: 13 May 2006 07:09 PM   [ Ignore ]  
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Hey,
ive just started trying to make my own tunes
i think this one is probably my best so far. The volumes arent all perfect yet and i havent yet figured out how to use compressors but have been told their important.
anyhoooooooooo…
i would like to know what people think
and any feedback would be greatly apreciated
thanks

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http://www.mytempdir.com/663655

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Posted: 15 May 2006 07:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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ok so i am listeneing now!

intro is ok, nice build up though the kik drum could be a bit heavier
i am noticing the distinct lack of pads and general underlaying atmosphere. you seem to have got ur synth lines going quite nicely but id say there one you have going throughout the whole tune needs to be used less and have more of a structure to
also the bassline needs to do a little more - it feel a little too static

i would go back into it and keep working at it, try a couple of different sounds and pads to create different feels at different parts of the track - that highpassfiltered synth/bli line really should not be as constant as it is - but as a general bones of a track you seem to have graspsed the ideA of structure! - just keep at it - it takes time, but the best thing you can do is keep bringing it to forums and getting feedback - and dont be dettered - i will be as honest as i can without being harsh and if you have any questions feel free to ask and i will be more than happy to help

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Posted: 17 May 2006 01:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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helpfull

hey man thanks,
thats the sort of feedback i was looking for
your right i completely overlooked pads, i suppose it isnt the bit of psy trance that i actually listen to, but i hear them all the time now, another thig was i just thought that the pad effects sounded rubbish, but thats only cause i was using them wrong, i didnt realise that they had to just be long constant notes,
anyway i think ill try and make a new song incorperating the good bits from the songs ive made so far and keep what you said in mind
ill probably post it back up here when its done, to see if im missing anything else out :?
rich

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Posted: 18 May 2006 02:32 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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eleves parsley

I decided to try and finish this one before i start any others. This is what it sounds like with the suggestions you made. I thinks its a good improvement
and can you tell me what compressing is. is it vital? is is just putting a compressor over the song played as an audio track in cubase

the link for the new improved song is: -
http://www.mytempdir.com/673238

any feedback again would probably be helpful…it was last time
cheers
rich

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Posted: 18 May 2006 08:43 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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ok - compression is taking the lowest level and the higest level of the audio and kind of sqashing them and rounding it off. You have the ratio and the threshold.  The threshold is the level at which you want to compress the sound. So if you set it to -3 the everything below that level will remain unaffected where as everything above it will be ‘limited’. The ratio is all to do with the change in output level that reslults from a given change in input levels. i.e witha artio of 1:1 the is no change in level, as for every 1dB change in input level the will be a 1dB change in output level - witha ratio of 1:3 a 3dB change in the input level will result in a 1 dB change in output level - quite simply reducing the gain and rounding off the sound.

when should you use compression???? - ok so you can compress anything, it really depens on the sound you are trying to achieve. With drums and bass especially you can make a really punchy sound by using high compression ratios and bringing the attack and release right down - for vocal, a more subtle approach will help keep the overall vocall at a more constant level and help it sit within the track a little better. As for overall compression of a track - i still dont feel completely confident doin it - its a real skill to be able to compress a whole track and have it come out sounding exactly as you want so i would leave that alone for now.

two things you should do to help are
1. read up about it, there are loads of good books and websites out therer thatcan explain everythign to you probably much better than me
2. play around yourself - get a drum loop or bass line looping - solo the track, attach a compressor and listen to what happens when you are playing around with it

hope that helps - will listen to the track when i get home form work smile

Peace - j

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