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Posted: 19 October 2009 01:51 AM   [ Ignore ]  
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Posted: 19 October 2009 03:22 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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First :D lol

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Posted: 19 October 2009 03:25 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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Posted: 19 October 2009 03:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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Posted: 19 October 2009 03:39 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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So… everyone’s going to download the leaked version? Wtf… I already pre-ordered my CD. It’s not even out and it’s available on the internet, i don’t get it..?

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Posted: 19 October 2009 03:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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papomania - 19 October 2009 03:39 AM

So… everyone’s going to download the leaked version? Wtf… I already pre-ordered my CD.

No not everyone. Some of us will wait until the 30th.

It’s not even out and it’s available on the internet, i don’t get it..?

Not much to get really. I suppose some twat thought it would be cool to ruin small labels chances of breaking even with their sales. Mind you I haven’t heard the copy and won’t so I can’t say if it is decent quality or not. Probably not. Most likely VBR switching between 96 and 192 kbps with glitches not made by Simon in places.

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Posted: 19 October 2009 03:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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Posted: 19 October 2009 03:52 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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well, i suppose this is how internet works today, musicians won’t earn money selling CD albums anymore, they actually make money from gigs.. that’s the business today

pretty sad, but true

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Posted: 19 October 2009 04:00 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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Yes very true, it makes non mainstream artists disappear.
To bad there is no way to avoid this. :(

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Posted: 19 October 2009 04:17 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]  
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This doesn’t only happen to small label releases…pretty much any album by any artist/group is leaked into the www on average about 2 weeks before its official release…this has been happening for a while…pretty much ever since the advent of the mp3 era…

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Posted: 19 October 2009 04:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]  
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damn, why would anyone want to listen to a poor quality ripped version of this album when all they have to do is wait a couple more weeks to get the real thing and listen to it in all its glory??

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Posted: 19 October 2009 05:17 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]  
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YohanKiwi - 19 October 2009 04:29 AM

damn, why would anyone want to listen to a poor quality ripped version of this album when all they have to do is wait a couple more weeks to get the real thing and listen to it in all its glory??

why wouldn’t anyone want to listen to a poor quality ripped version of this album?
i understand that the lack in quality is very displeasing on the ears…but on the whole it probably sounds very much alike when compared to the finished version…the only kick in the nuts is the fact that twisted is being ripped off by the bastards that have pirated the album into the web prior to its original release…and this will hinder the purchase profits that would otherwise be generated to their full extent…

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Posted: 19 October 2009 07:22 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]  
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DumbDuck - 19 October 2009 05:17 AM

why wouldn’t anyone want to listen to a poor quality ripped version of this album?

Bwahahaa! Mp3 quality vs CD quality?
Does that even need to be discussed?  hmmm 

The bear still patiently waits…

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Posted: 19 October 2009 09:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]  
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Cloudwalker - 19 October 2009 07:22 AM
DumbDuck - 19 October 2009 05:17 AM

why wouldn’t anyone want to listen to a poor quality ripped version of this album?

Bwahahaa! Mp3 quality vs CD quality?
Does that even need to be discussed?  hmmm 

The bear still patiently waits…

I am not disputing the fact that cd quality kicks mp3’s ass…no argument there…surely for a loyal fan like you it would be nothing less then a sacrilege to even consider downloading a pirated version off the net…but for the regular joe its nothing more then one more zip file to download and extract into their ipod…

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Posted: 19 October 2009 09:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]  
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I think it’s time to stop complaining about losing profits due to filesharing. Makes no sense to me. Losing profits compared to what? Those earned if the technology did not exist? So what if there are a million 8 (or 16) bit versions of everything Twisted ever published floating around out there..

I don’t buy the argument that people who dl leaked copies won’t buy the album. Those who download copies might actually find they like it enough to contribute to the artist, through whatever means they can afford. It’s not very capitalistic, it’s not what we’re used to. Like it or not, album profits are now more based on album merit. Instead of the artist saying “here’s my work, and this is the cost to enjoy it,” it is the consumer saying, “I will evaluate a lo-fi (or not) copy, and then decide if and how much of my money it’s worth.


The issue of “lost profits” has nothing to do with die hard fans and everything to do with fence sitters, or “initiates”. (Not too culty sounding, is it? smileIt’s because of these people that filesharing might be an advantage. Potential new fans, and new potential concert goers. I believe a digital copy is not a product or a commodity. It’s information. Advertising the experience of a live Shpongle concert in the privacy of your own underground dungeon. Just me? Ok, anyway, it’s one of the new reasons I’m digging the samples (haven’t dled the album yet- yes, I can actually wait, CW :p. Lots of live drums. Makes you want to be at the show.

Twisted should take a cue from Ott. From his website, ottsonic.com:

If you have downloaded any of my music from filesharing networks, or made copies from friends, and feel you would like to donate something directly to me, you can do so by clicking the “Donate” button below.

There is no minimum or maximum amount so feel free to send me what you think my work deserves.

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Posted: 19 October 2009 10:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]  
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I would have never heard of Shpongle if it wasn’t for pirated music. Now I own all their albums (and preordered Ineffable Mysteries too). So yeah… it does have its good sides.

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