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Posted: 20 October 2009 04:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 106 ]  
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DiMuTech - 20 October 2009 04:22 PM

You said yourself okyup that it sounds all the same whereas I don’t think Shpongle does. Each album has had it’s different style.

Don’t even bother explaining what Shpongle is and means to us to that guy.

He doesn’t speak Shpongolese and won’t understand it.

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Posted: 20 October 2009 04:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 107 ]  
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DiMuTech - 20 October 2009 03:45 PM

Wiccita wonka, Mrs Posford and peekaboo. It’s the same girl.

I know, I just thought the comment on okyou was really funny, telling him to leave the philanthropy to the philanthropists in regards to the fact that okyou was trying to “help us understand better music” or whatever the hell he was spouting… such an ass…

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Posted: 20 October 2009 05:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 108 ]  
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Sigh, some people will never understand that music taste is personal.

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Posted: 21 October 2009 12:54 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 109 ]  
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Kodara - 20 October 2009 05:40 PM

Sigh, some people will never understand that music taste is personal.

Grin, most people will always imagine that musical taste is something unexplainable and unquestionable, and go around complaining with their small-brains every time someone tries to do either.

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Twisted Records is one of the most commercial psy labels, yet they are the only psy label to stoop to crying publicly about not selling enough CDs. Better to spend your money supporting smaller labels and emerging artists that really have money problems. Twisted already sells thousands of each CD, they will hardly notice it if you just download their music in high quality instead.

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Posted: 21 October 2009 01:05 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 110 ]  
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DiMuTech - 20 October 2009 04:22 PM

However they are charging 11 euros a cd roughly

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Posted: 21 October 2009 02:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 111 ]  
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Si, it’s disheartening to read your post: there really is nothing like the Twisted family, and if the label were to go under, we would be at a great loss.

It’s hard to describe the feelings generated by the all of the artists you have brought together over the past years through this label.

I have nothing but awe and respect for how much you and Benji, Ott and the gang have advanced our music beyond genres; toppling listeners’ conceptions of what it means to experience electronic music.

Please try not to let this thread add to your stress. There will always be forums, trolls, and russian pirates. This is just the world we live in. There is no easy fix, but please let us help. This age of social networking and 0 second leaks requires PEOPLE to bring the value of this music to the populous. We need street teams to say the least raspberry Fuck man, I’ll stand out on the corner in Ann Arbor at the University of Michigan and sell shirts and cd’s all launch week. It means this much to me.

I wish I could share the numerous accounts of how introducing people I encounter to your label’s products have shown them that there is limitless depth and potential in electronic music and that people should demand more from the genre. Unfortunately, I don’t really know how many of these people go out and buy CD’s, but I hope at least a few see the value in contributing.

Please do add a donation link! I met you at the Shpongle 3 NYC launch party and tried to give you a cash donation and you refused. I really do understand what you mean by wanting giving to give people a CD in exchange for their money, but honestly if people are willing to donate regardless, it’s their loss for not getting the physical product. (That’s the other thing: we need to chat about physical products because this is part of the issue.)


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Now to address this russian leak:

Consumers of this 320kbit, 44100Hz rip need to be aware that there are some serious fidelity issues. This “high bit rate” encoding lies like a motherfucker and listening to it quite frustrates me. It almost entirely fails to capture the essence of what makes Shpongle Shpongle. Beyond that, there is clipping throughout and some god awful volume normalization. Listening to this rip as a long time fan of Simon, Raja, and analog synthesizers made me immediately order my copy of the CD. It’s a freaking cock tease I tell you!

It’s quite a shame that those unfamiliar with Shpongle who encounter this rip may never have the joy of hearing the CD. They may think, “gee whats this distortion, I kind of hear something, is this artifacting or the song?”. These users will never get to experience what makes Simon and Raja’s art so powerful because in this rip it is indeed lost.

Now I am even more excited for the CD to ship, because I actually want to be able to hear what Simon is doing so that I can try to figure out how hes doing it! (Impossible I tell you! I’m still trying to figure out how some of the sounds were made in Younger Brother’s Weird on a Monday Night)

So please, encourage your friends to purchase a copy. If not to help support Twisted and protect its future, but to actually get a chance to see why this Shpongle is an evolution of all of Simon and Raja’s past works. The spirit of the concept is deeply entwined within this album.

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-Matt/Wintermute

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Posted: 21 October 2009 02:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 112 ]  
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VeryGood - 20 October 2009 09:58 PM

Hey Simon, don’t worry. Me and my friends from Russia will order legal disks too. smile


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November, 21 in Forum Hall (Moskow) will be russian presentation of the “Ineffable Mysteries…”.

Hope, see you there. grin

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Posted: 21 October 2009 03:04 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 113 ]  
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wintermute, just curious, how did you find out that the leak was Russian?
If you have some evidence I believe it would be very helpful with finding the origin of the leak.

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Posted: 21 October 2009 03:59 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 114 ]  
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and81 - 21 October 2009 03:04 AM

wintermute, just curious, how did you find out that the leak was Russian?
If you have some evidence I believe it would be very helpful with finding the origin of the leak.

Just the RU in the archive name. It doesn’t appear to be a ‘scene’ release, however there’s an RU in place of where the ‘scene’ group name usually is. really just a guess, some of the places it’s hosted do not include this, but it’s the same CRC on the archive regardless so IMO there was only 1 source. Plus, the .ru filehosting sites were where it was first uploaded to.

btw that reminds me, that’s another thing this community can do: feel free to use the ‘report abuse’ link on any of these you find hosted on the ddl sites like rghost.ru, narod.ru, and the like. Obviously they keep popping up, but I’m sure less proliferation would help.

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Posted: 21 October 2009 05:11 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 115 ]  
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wintermute - 21 October 2009 02:40 AM

Consumers of this 320kbit, 44100Hz rip need to be aware that there are some serious fidelity issues. This “high bit rate” encoding lies like a motherfucker and listening to it quite frustrates me. It almost entirely fails to capture the essence of what makes Shpongle Shpongle.

I’m sure there will be a lossless rip available any day now. Of course Simon could provide a better quality MP3 rip if he really isn’t satisfied with the quality of the one up there.

As for Twisted going bankrupt and having <$1000 in the bank account, why not just do a Shpongle live concert for thousands of euros to raise some revenue, or does that go into a separate bank account? Not sure if everyone here saw this before, but it raises questions about how Twisted can be bankrupt.
http://ia310843.us.archive.org/2/items/Shpongle_Live_contract_AUS/Shpongle_Live_contract_AUS_page1.pdf
http://www.psynews.org/forums/index.php?/topic/54325-would-you-pay-100000-euros-plus-expenses-for-shpongle-live/

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Posted: 21 October 2009 05:22 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 116 ]  
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If I remember correctly, that gig never took place.

And even if Twisted did receive that non-refundable deposit of 20.000e, it was almost a year ago.

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Posted: 21 October 2009 05:25 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 117 ]  
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Whether it took place or not isn’t the issue. There are many concerts that DID take place, and I’m sure they were at very high prices too, and continue to.

Edit: nor is any other details regarding that specific concert relevant.

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Posted: 21 October 2009 05:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 118 ]  
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How many concerts, exactly? First one @ Roundhouse, one in Moscow, third @ Ozora fest, right?

I am sure that nobody paid Twisted 100.000e for the first one, since they were the organizers.

edit: And do you really think that all that money stays only on Twisted Rec’s bank account?

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Posted: 21 October 2009 05:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 119 ]  
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okyup - 21 October 2009 05:11 AM

As for Twisted going bankrupt and having <$1000 in the bank account, why not just do a Shpongle live concert for thousands of euros to raise some revenue, or does that go into a separate bank account? Not sure if everyone here saw this before, but it raises questions about how Twisted can be bankrupt.

As mentioned it never took place and they never got the money. Shit load of legal fees I understand. Ooh perhaps that’s where alot of the money went.

Way to go bringing that sore subject up again.

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Posted: 21 October 2009 05:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 120 ]  
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Shpongle just released a new album. I’m sure there will be an interest in more live concerts.

Do I really have to spell everything out and reiterate for you guys?

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