Well, I downloaded this album too, just because I couldn’t wait till 30th Oct to buy it. But I don’t see anything bad in it, because I will buy it, just like I bought every Shpongle album till now.
Album is amazing and I can’t stop listening to it, but I can’t say that it is the best one, because every single Shpongle album is the best in its own way.
I hope that there will be enough copies at the concert, so we can buy them for our friends who couldn’t come to England to concert.

Shpongle ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥

Ninaa - 19 October 2009 05:31 PM

Album is amazing and I can’t stop listening to it, but I can’t say that it is the best one, because every single Shpongle album is the best in its own way.

Love the tattoo!!

I haven’t heard the new album yet but agree with you and I’ve mentioned it before on the forum that I don’t have a favourite Shpongle album as each tells its own story and style.

I love the ambience of the first, the maddness of the second and the rollercoaster ride of the third.  Each also suits a different mood I find and I’m sure the fourth will pan out the same way.  Even from the clips on the home page the detail and production sounds stunning….

I always wonder what quality tracks were left off each album so hope to hear them one day on a box set…

The heartless fucker, who would do such a thing to such a inspirational and talented band, should be tracked down and SUED, and then band repayed for all of their lost profits…then slowly tortured… i vote removing his/her genitalia and making them listen to Rick Springfield, till their ears bleed… whilst eating dog poo. Maybe we can start a torture thread? 
Raj and Simon have touched my soul and forever changed my life. To wrong a band that has effected all of us so deeply, is simply tasteless and greedy.
Then, for the idiot to start critiquing his stolen shit sound copy, is a fool!!
Even Simon thinks you’re a big fat idiot!
Some great loyal fan you are.
So now Raj and Simon can count down the days, working their asses off to create a 2 night live experience for us… after basically just being informed that their precious little baby… that they have so lovingly and painstaking created, ready to unfold to all of our virgin ears and hearts, at their live event… is now up for sale on the black market full, of worms and skank. Just awesome! You suck pirate HO!! I really hope you get caught!
Anyway I am grateful for all you do Shpongle. I am waiting for my copy! The artwork is brilliant and I am forever in appreciation…
Much love to beautiful people here, who are patient and waiting to get Shpongled… the right way.
Oh and Simon…
I think you’re really sexy too. Marry me!

Hallucinogen - 19 October 2009 11:25 AM

XaNe - 18 October 2009 08:25 PM

I’m disappointed, digital distortion. The loudness war is in our Shpongle tracks. :’(

This to me is very disappointing.

But i still have some hope for the final CD release.
I am hoping that this album has no digital distortion.

You should be ashamed of yourself! You haven’t even got the CD, and you are complaining about some computer readout from something you downloaded??? Until you have listened to the CD that we made, and used your ears…. then tell me you think that Kevin Metcalfe, our mastering engineer, who has over 30 years of experience (http://www.soundmasters.co.uk/ClientPage.htm) is a numpty, and has done a bad job…. go on, i dare you!

I feel like the biggest asshole in the world now and It was to my favorite artist. I dont even know or understand how to truly say im sorry.

I dont even know how i can even say something like that to someone that has shown the world such amazing music. I feel im the biggest buffoon in the world, I am sorry, extremely sorry.

It’s all very well to speculate, but i can tell you as a fact, we made more money before file sharing… we could survive… now not so…. and i think you will find it the same all over the music business… the argument that “file sharing is promotion” is probably valid…. in fact, i agree…in a way it serves a similar purpose to radio…. but the argument that “file sharing is promotion and therefore you will sell more CDs” is clearly absolute bollocks, otherwise the music industry would be booming right now!

I’m very sorry for you man… It’s a severe misjudgment of mine. Like everyone else, I didn’t know it was that bad. I thought there were more people out there like me: download first, buy later (OR in the case of artists that have gained my uttermost respect and trust, like Shpongle, YB and Juno Reactor: order album right away!!).
But apparently most people are: download first, kill the record label later.. :-(

And why you draw our attention to ‘the long tail’ curve mystifies me:  sure amazon can make a lot of money by selling huge quantities from a vast catalogue…. that would work for twisted too, if we had signed 18 million artists….and each CD sold a few dozen copies… unfortunately we have only 3 or 4 artists right now, so the ‘long tail’ is irrelevant to us, clearly… we might have contributed 30 bucks or so to Amazon’s $207 MILLION profit (figures posted for 2008)....

What I meant to say is that the entire psytrance/psychill scene is in the 80%.. I was applying the principle industry wide. So the entire Twisted stuff is somewhere in the long tail. Everything on the radio is in the 20%, eating a lot of Twisted’s possible profits. But yea… You guys do get more exposure, but not more sales.. So my little anti-pareto theory really seems to fail. I think the issue is that another pareto-principle does its work: The 20% in the head spread way faster and gain popularity way faster, let’s say the get 80% of all the attention and digital downloads… And the other 80%, including the entire psy scene, gets 20% of all the attention and digital downloads. When I put it like that, I can see where it goes wrong for labels like Twisted. Popmusic is like a spreading disease!!:(

Also i’m sorry that “And if it weren’t for the internet, I would have given up on music entirely”....  for me, the internet makes me want to give up music   But i guess i’m from a different generation…. I started making some of the trance that probably fills your 100Gigs hard drive before i’d even heard of the internet… and i didn’t need the internet to find a deep love of music… the rush of buying a new vinyl, of collecting every release/picture disc by my favourite artists…. discovering new music i liked, all underground, no radio-plugged mix CDs or whatever… ALL without the internet!

I guess it depends on where you live. I’ve lived in several places now and whereever I go, whichever shop I go into, there’s only commercial pop, r&b, hiphip and rock. There’s one shop hidden somewhere in the center of Amsterdam with psy, but I haven’t been able to find it yet. Therefore, for me and a lot of others, internet is thé medium for music discovery. O yea and I once went to Tokyo into the Tower Records building, the only place so far where I’ve seen physical psyalbums for sale, on display. I was happy as a child in a candy store
However I can understand that from your viewpoint, the internet sucks the giant donkey balls…

I agree that it is lame when an album is leaked before release… it’s kind of like opening a christmas present too early or something… we think it has come from a press person we sent the album to review… i wish he/she could have spent the time they took to upload the album writing a review instead, and earning their dirty journo paycheck, rather than stealing ours…
Anyway i’m off to use the internet for what it’s best for…... where are those tissues? 

Once again, I’m very sorry man… I promise I shall wait with listening until the album is in my CD player. And maybe I can get my friends to buy your album, they’re into progressive rock/metal and they also dig Shpongle (I think the comment one guy made above me makes sense: the ‘older’ generation is used to Pink Floyd and the likes and might respect your music more easily. I think Shpongle’s music is way too intelligent for the younger generation :-(

I hope you’ll continue to be able to enjoy making music… It comes from your heart and soul, and that’s amazing. My life wouldn’t be the same without Twisted… It inspires me and makes my days. In that sense, you truly are a God to me, Simon.

I have not downloaded the leaked version because like Simon said its like opening a Christmas present early. I truly feel bad for you Simon. You put your heart into making this music, wanting it to be heard by everyone at the same time. Anxious about its release and then this. Some fuck steals and uploads it. Ive been listening to Twisted music everyday for the past 3 years. I’m as anxious to hear the new album just as much as the next guy but hell, out of respect for Simon and Raj if you haven’t downloaded the leaked version (which seems to be very few people on this forum) just wait for its release. I have pre-ordered my copy and cant wait to hear it. The samples are beautiful and I know I will not be disappointed with your work Simon. Wish I could of made it to the party on 30/31st. Surly with the release of the CD/DVD and the party, it will fill the piggy bank a little bit. Good luck man and please keep making music.

Peace

Si let me know how many cd’s to buy at your London gigs so you’ll never go bankrupt! Thats crazy talk and their is no way your going anywhere! Fuck why would people want to download it illegally anyways one the reason your music is so amazing to me is when I hear all the little sounds noises you pick up listening on headphones no way can you get that sound magic downloading it…. If these fucking people downloading it because they like your music so god dam much THEN support your artist so more magic can come dumb-asses

cootiful - 19 October 2009 06:01 PM

Oh and Simon…
I think you’re really sexy too. Marry me!

With a name like ‘cootiful’, i’d be a little wary   but since i know who you are, i’d have to say a big “YES!”. How romantic of you to propose to me on the Twisted Forum  
If you’re serious, i’d say yes of course But shouldn’t you get down on your knees? Oh right, you do that plenty enough anyway !
Tee~Hee!

p.s. I think you’re really sexy too

Hallucinogen - 19 October 2009 11:25 AM

So some fucker has released the album on the internet already…. thanks a lot, whoever it was… Maybe twisted will still recoup, maybe not… all i know is that we are teetering on bankruptcy, and are seeking deals elsewhere…. the 12 loyal fans on this forum are not enough to sustain a record label…. How much do you think Twisted has in the bank account? Have a guess? More than $10,000 ? More than $20,000 ?  Well it is actually less than $1,000….. Raj and i haven’t even been paid our advance for this album…. All the artists on twisted are seeking deals with other labels now… We can’t pay a label manager, and we can’t pay the artists…. always putting our hope in ‘just ONE more release’.... “We’ll be ok if the DVD sells”....“Surely the Shpongle CD will sell, right?”

It really saddens me to read this. You guys shouldn’t be struggling for money, it’s widely acknowledged that your label produce quality music. It just sounds unfair.

You should find the press guy who released the album on the net, and sue him…It’s terrible to do that to an indie label.

Thanks so much for all your support… it means a lot

And just to be clear, it’s not really the downloaders i am so angry with… everyone does it… (although i use spotify to check out the music first, cos if i don’t want to buy it, i don’t want it sitting around on my hard drive…) but it is the UPLOADERS who are the scum…. and of course i’m not happy when people complain about the sound quality of something i haven’t issued myself…. it’s not a fair accusation…

So don’t feel you have to wait for the CD out of a sense of duty… do it because you want to hear it in the intended quality…. (btw, there will be a limited amount of vinyl… but as you have probably guessed by now we can’t afford to do a big mega-gatefold Geshtonkenflapper…. but as soon as we get some money in from the CDs we’ll do a double vinyl)

Thanks to all of you fans who support what we are doing and buy CDs and come to shows…. we do our best to make nice things for you
x x x

Damn right you do your best to provide amazing things for us. And I appreciate that to the fullest! I always laughed when i heard people say certain bands/musicians changed peoples lives. Well i am one of those people now, i started getting shpongled about 3 years ago. My life has taken crazy turns since then, FOR THE GOOD! Your music has influenced me in lots of ways. I have sat at home some nights listening to album after album just thinking about life and shit that goes on. I couldn’t picture anyone elses music to do that to. Its truly mind expanding! In my opnion you have released nothing short of perfect! I know that me and my friends who i have introduced you to are fans for life! Every show ive seen you at in the states has been top notch! Same with ott! Keep on keeping on man! I know that i will always support what you guys do! I cant wait to get my copy of the cd and dvd in the mail! CANT WAIT!

I have a crazy but I think could be a cool idea. Just think of it as say helping a mate out.

Say if we all say bought a t shirt or a hoodie, mugs or some twisted accesories when buying the cd. I just thought of it as I need a new nothing lasts t shirt as the cats have decided it looks better with a few small holes.

Just think if we all were to do that I can’t imagine how many people come on the forum but if out of the 2500 or so members say a 500 read this and say spent on average £5 extra when they buy the cd that’ll be £2500. Maybe that’ll help Simon out with the electricity and some over to put in the savings for a jumbo jet.

It would be a pity to see a label like twisted go under. I believe the majority of us can say we’ve experienced some awesome moments just by hearing the genius work of Simon and Raj.

DiMuTech - 19 October 2009 07:54 PM

I have a crazy but I think could be a cool idea. Just think of it as say helping a mate out.

Say if we all say bought a t shirt or a hoodie, mugs or some twisted accesories when buying the cd. I just thought of it as I need a new nothing lasts t shirt as the cats have decided it looks better with a few small holes.

Just think if we all were to do that I can’t imagine how many people come on the forum but if out of the 2500 or so members say a 500 read this and say spent on average £5 extra when they buy the cd that’ll be £2500. Maybe that’ll help Simon out with the electricity and some over to put in the savings for a jumbo jet.

if it would keep twisted artists from jumping ship…sure, count me in…even though i already have 2 hoodies

DumbDuck - 19 October 2009 08:01 PM

if it would keep twisted artists from jumping ship…sure, count me in…even though i already have 2 hoodies

You can never have enough hoodies hey!

Winter is coming also

hahaha Im going to buy 8 of the shpongle t-shirt!!!! One to wear each day, and on to frame. Or no! Ill put it into one of those fire extiguisher containers:

“Break In Case Of Emergency” HAH!