Apologies if this has been posted elsewhere, just wanted to express my delight at seeing Simon getting some (mainstream) recognition.

http://www.djmag.com/top100/detail/1277

Hopefully this will make him happy, and we can all move on from the recent negativity…

“Promentheus”

haha…

Does this “mainstream” recognition matter? Its silly and shallow.

you cant really compare the work done at twisted to the rest of the people on the list! maybe infected, but the point is the djs are so diverse its its really a poll on which fans djs get the most DJmag coverage and therefore readers i dont think this applies to ambient psy. Thank god

Having said that there are some awful acts above simon on the list i would see it as a kick in the balls but hey thats just opinion!

I have a better poll Best band outh there

votes counted 1

winner: younger brother

No. 93, I bet that tickled Simon’s intellectual funny bone, just for the
Crowley reference…

But I must admit “popularity contests” are the sort of things I expect to find
left behind at school. But on the otherhand, some congrats are in order, so as not
to put a dampener on the party.

Congrats!! More mainstream recognition = more albums bought and more events booked… that sounds good to me.

zipp - 30 October 2009 05:06 AM

Congrats!! More mainstream recognition = more albums bought and more events booked… that sounds good to me.

you know, you say this, but if somehow Simon was #10 on the list next year, you’d (and by you I mean his core fans) call him a sellout and all of a sudden his music would suck to you because it’s appealing to the masses.

That’s what I hate about music… you love something not many other people do, then as soon as its recognized as being good by more and more people, it’s suddenly selling out.

case in point - Infected Mushroom.

To me, they are still making very complex diverse music as they were 10 years ago, but since they blew up, everyone of their old fans puts a “SUCK” stamp on them. that’s not fair… they can’t help it if they make GOOD music and toured their ass off to get to their level.

I’ve never heard an IM song on the radio, have you? it’s been underground to mainstream in the course of 10 years of hard work…

I want Simon to make shitloads of money just like everyone, and i won’t think he sold out for doing it. He, like many other artists make our lives enjoyable, and it’s really not something you can put a price tag on, but I for sure want to support the people that make my life better, and hope they can make many others happier for years to come.

I know Simon isn’t hurting for $, Twisted maybe, but not Simon. I want to see him go to the top because his music transcends most everything else and the more people hear it, IMO, the faster we get to the level of evolution I would like humans to get to.

Sorry for the rant…zipp, i know you want success for Shpongle..i do to. But if it happens, expect many of his fans to turn their back because he’s a ‘sellout’

psilogod - 31 October 2009 03:55 PM

case in point - Infected Mushroom.

i wanted to stop reading there, but then:

psilogod - 31 October 2009 03:55 PM

To me, they are still making very complex diverse music as they were 10 years ago, but since they blew up, everyone of their old fans puts a “SUCK” stamp on them. that’s not fair… they can’t help it if they make GOOD music and toured their ass off to get to their level.

seriously, go listen to classical mushroom and the gathering. then have a listen to the title track to converting vegetarians.

i’m not gonna say that they sold out, because they basically came out and admitted that they’ve moved on, but any act that lists limp bizkit as their influence… can’t be called part of the ‘scene’ anymore. they are playing different music, power to them, i just think it’s as good as shite mixed with vomit.

the thing is, you can’t be that commercially successful without giving away some artistic credibility. if simon posford ever gets to #10 playing the same music he plays now, i very much doubt anyone will be over it. in fact, i think people would be overjoyed to see such beautiful intricate music being enjoyed by the masses. imagine a world where albums like dark side of the moon, or even jeff wayne’s musical version of the war of the worlds ruled the charts. it’s not that farfetched to expect good music to be commercially successful. it’s just much more difficult now because the world’s music is ruled by large record labels which control what people listen to, hence what people like.

anyway, since you brought them up i might as well post this. it just never gets old :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e401xjoHJJ8

flavius - 31 October 2009 09:39 PM

psilogod - 31 October 2009 03:55 PM

case in point - Infected Mushroom.

i wanted to stop reading there, but then:

psilogod - 31 October 2009 03:55 PM

To me, they are still making very complex diverse music as they were 10 years ago, but since they blew up, everyone of their old fans puts a “SUCK” stamp on them. that’s not fair… they can’t help it if they make GOOD music and toured their ass off to get to their level.

seriously, go listen to classical mushroom and the gathering. then have a listen to the title track to converting vegetarians.

i’m not gonna say that they sold out, because they basically came out and admitted that they’ve moved on, but any act that lists limp bizkit as their influence… can’t be called part of the ‘scene’ anymore. they are playing different music, power to them, i just think it’s as good as shite mixed with vomit.

the thing is, you can’t be that commercially successful without giving away some artistic credibility. if simon posford ever gets to #10 playing the same music he plays now, i very much doubt anyone will be over it. in fact, i think people would be overjoyed to see such beautiful intricate music being enjoyed by the masses. imagine a world where albums like dark side of the moon, or even jeff wayne’s musical version of the war of the worlds ruled the charts. it’s not that farfetched to expect good music to be commercially successful. it’s just much more difficult now because the world’s music is ruled by large record labels which control what people listen to, hence what people like.

anyway, since you brought them up i might as well post this. it just never gets old :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e401xjoHJJ8

shite mixed with vomit?? really?? I mean I like to think I have pretty good taste in music, and other than Duvdev’s vocals which I agree is a turn off, I don’t hear a huge leap in musical style from classical to even Shawarma.

Slowly and Project 100 are amazing pieces of work…psytrance? maybe not, but who cares? That genre has so much crap in it these days. It’s not psytrance, it’s Infected Mushroom, and I think the tracks are pretty psychedelic.

Maybe they aren’t making great entire albums like Classical anymore, but they still have their touch in my opinion. Vicious Delicious, Heavyweight and Before are all stellar songs imo from the last album. Converting Vegetarians other side is brilliant as well… the title track is tongue and cheek…you don’t see the humor?

it’s just hate from the old fans that didn’t want them to change their sound. pity really…all my favorite artists usually evolve their sound over time while maintaining their touch.

I still say if Simon went to the top of that DJ list, a lot of his core fans would cry sellout and any new material would be chastised…it almost always happens with any underground favorite.

But yea, a Limp Bizkit influence is lulz. Fred Durst is the epitome of bad.

i think flavius had his feelings hurt by IM at some point.

who cares what a band’s influences are. they are for the band to decide, NOT YOU.

too many fans think that musicians make music for them, and not for the band themselves.

infected is popular cause they are good and have a great live show. not because they “sold out”. i was around for their 2nd US tour ever, they were amazing, and thats what put them over the top. not being a sellout. whatever that means.

zipp - 30 October 2009 05:06 AM

Congrats!! More mainstream recognition = more albums bought and more events booked… that sounds good to me.

Regardless of who it’s from surely it’s always nice to get recognize for your work, no?

Optimist - 08 November 2009 10:02 AM

zipp - 30 October 2009 05:06 AM

Congrats!! More mainstream recognition = more albums bought and more events booked… that sounds good to me.

Regardless of who it’s from surely it’s always nice to get recognize for your work, no?

unless you’re Infected Mushroom….then you’re despised for being recognized.

psilogod - 08 November 2009 09:08 PM

Optimist - 08 November 2009 10:02 AM

zipp - 30 October 2009 05:06 AM

Congrats!! More mainstream recognition = more albums bought and more events booked… that sounds good to me.

Regardless of who it’s from surely it’s always nice to get recognize for your work, no?

unless you’re Infected Mushroom….then you’re despised for being recognized.

By whom?  I got into this scene in Tokyo in the mid 90s and the trance hippies I knew were hoping that the scene would catch on and replace the garbage that most clubs were playing.  Why would success be a bad thing?

Neuro - 09 November 2009 03:52 AM

psilogod - 08 November 2009 09:08 PM

Optimist - 08 November 2009 10:02 AM

zipp - 30 October 2009 05:06 AM

Congrats!! More mainstream recognition = more albums bought and more events booked… that sounds good to me.

Regardless of who it’s from surely it’s always nice to get recognize for your work, no?

unless you’re Infected Mushroom….then you’re despised for being recognized.

By whom?  I got into this scene in Tokyo in the mid 90s and the trance hippies I knew were hoping that the scene would catch on and replace the garbage that most clubs were playing.  Why would success be a bad thing?

Exactly… it’s not a bad thing for the artist, its a bad thing for the original core fans who want to keep their mostly unknown musical delicacy to themselves = dumb!

If Shpongle, Ott, Prometheus or Younger Brother somehow went mainstream tomorrow, most of their core fans would cry sellout and abandon them as fans.

All it takes is one song to catch on… see Delerium - Silence. While I’m not comparing Delerium to Twisted artists, the same principal would apply… mostly unknown electronic downtempo/world music group makes hit song and suddenly there’s Tiesto remixes and worldwide radio play etc etc. Then the core fans who listened to them since 89 are scratching their heads as to why they are still listening to pop jibberish.

it’s a pretty common phenomenon in music.

Ott and Si did it in the year 2000 with their hit “Hot 4 U” though, noone think’s any better or worse of them because of it I think?

GOD, that song is just hauntingly appalling and addicting at the same time. I H8 it s0 mUch!

jazzbjorn - 09 November 2009 07:46 AM

Ott and Si did it in the year 2000 with their hit “Hot 4 U” though, noone think’s any better or worse of them because of it I think?

GOD, that song is just hauntingly appalling and addicting at the same time. I H8 it s0 mUch!

hahah I never heard it before…checked out the samples and its pretty funny.