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Posted: 10 November 2009 03:39 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]  
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Overture - 10 November 2009 02:38 PM

Nah, it’s the Buddhist mantra on the impermanence of all things. I was going to say something similar about the Shpongle albums, letting things go, but I got beaten to it smile

Is there a mantra on wasting time? j/k

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Posted: 10 November 2009 04:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]  
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jono - 10 November 2009 03:39 PM
Overture - 10 November 2009 02:38 PM

Nah, it’s the Buddhist mantra on the impermanence of all things. I was going to say something similar about the Shpongle albums, letting things go, but I got beaten to it smile

Is there a mantra on wasting time? j/k

Actually it’s a chant, goes something along the lines of.

“Whar…woawoawoawoh, wha-disit-goodfor Ahhbso Loo-tlay Noth-Hing.”

If you’re advanced, you say it again.

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Posted: 11 November 2009 02:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]  
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i’m definitely not a fan of the guitar either, but esp the metal guitar. i’m really picky though, for example i love everything about shpongolese spoken here, but the spanish guitar solo a the end is a little bit much for me. i guess it’s not twisted enough raspberry

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Posted: 11 November 2009 05:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]  
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sand_mandala

For anyone who is more interested in it. The designs they make are pretty insane too.

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Posted: 11 November 2009 10:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]  
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flavius - 11 November 2009 02:55 PM

i’m definitely not a fan of the guitar either, but esp the metal guitar. i’m really picky though, for example i love everything about shpongolese spoken here, but the spanish guitar solo a the end is a little bit much for me. i guess it’s not twisted enough raspberry

Couldn’t agree more, thing is guitars can become very quickly cheesy, because it’s mainly a popular instrument. But listen to the ones in “evil and harms”, “shpongle spores” or the “herb garden”, these are the kind of playings I’d want to hear more.

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Posted: 12 November 2009 07:27 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]  
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generix - 11 November 2009 10:11 PM
flavius - 11 November 2009 02:55 PM

i’m definitely not a fan of the guitar either, but esp the metal guitar. i’m really picky though, for example i love everything about shpongolese spoken here, but the spanish guitar solo a the end is a little bit much for me. i guess it’s not twisted enough raspberry

Couldn’t agree more, thing is guitars can become very quickly cheesy, because it’s mainly a popular instrument. But listen to the ones in “evil and harms”, “shpongle spores” or the “herb garden”, these are the kind of playings I’d want to hear more.

Agreed. I was actually into that Nebbish Route track and then the guitars came in and it was ruined. What were you thinking Simon???

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Posted: 12 November 2009 08:20 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]  
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jono - 12 November 2009 07:27 AM
generix - 11 November 2009 10:11 PM
flavius - 11 November 2009 02:55 PM

i’m definitely not a fan of the guitar either, but esp the metal guitar. i’m really picky though, for example i love everything about shpongolese spoken here, but the spanish guitar solo a the end is a little bit much for me. i guess it’s not twisted enough raspberry

Couldn’t agree more, thing is guitars can become very quickly cheesy, because it’s mainly a popular instrument. But listen to the ones in “evil and harms”, “shpongle spores” or the “herb garden”, these are the kind of playings I’d want to hear more.

Agreed. I was actually into that Nebbish Route track and then the guitars came in and it was ruined. What were you thinking Simon???

That track was composed by Raja Ram, Simon Posford AND P. Callard I think he’s the one who ruined it. Haha, anyway I like it a bit.

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Posted: 12 November 2009 08:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]  
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I love the guitars in Shpongle.  The playing is so beautiful and the tone is so clear.  All of the layers form a cohesive whole to me.

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Posted: 12 November 2009 11:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]  
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making the music is the meditation… i used to hate electronic music, then i hated guitars or vocals in electronic music, now i’m a bit more open minded… and there are recurring themes, you just have to look a bit harder because when the themes return the mirror might be a bit dustier… or even cracked…. wink
In any case, it’s boring listening to the same thing over and over in the studio whilst making a track… i’m allowed to entertain myself smile

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Posted: 12 November 2009 11:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]  
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Hallucinogen - 12 November 2009 11:16 AM

making the music is the meditation… i used to hate electronic music, then i hated guitars or vocals in electronic music, now i’m a bit more open minded… and there are recurring themes, you just have to look a bit harder because when the themes return the mirror might be a bit dustier… or even cracked…. wink
In any case, it’s boring listening to the same thing over and over in the studio whilst making a track… i’m allowed to entertain myself smile

As intricate as the music is I am sure you spend alot of time listenning to the same thing over and over trying to get it into the right zone so to speak….I know I do whenever I write.

Thing about the guitars is I really enjoy it when they are processed to hell. Especially thru Kyma….dear lord if I only had the money for that thing.

With vocals it’s a different story. I am still in the phase where I enjoy vocals I cant understand because as soon as I CAN understand what the lyrics are saying it usually ruins the mood the music has created for me up to that point. Maybe it’s just me.

If times are tough at Twisted one thing I have always wondered is why Twisted doesnt just start selling sample cds? Hell there are enough people out there trying to imitate Shpongle I think it would be a great way to make some extra dough.

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Posted: 12 November 2009 04:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]  
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I’d say I’m a bit disappointed. Too trance-y, not enough of the transcendent awesomeness of Nothing Lasts… . Too much of it is playing a sample 4 times over with some effects on it, there are too many moments that physically hurt my hears because they seem to hit some master “OW!” frequency, no “whistlability” (i cant tell you how often i whistle Schnitzl’d In The Negev, The Stamen Of The Shaman). The best track, Ineffable Mysteries, suffers the same problem as all the other tracks in that it’s (3 minutes) too long and self-indulgent.

Nothing Is Something Worth Doing is a song ending without a beginning or a middle, highly frustrating with unnecessarily annoying vocals (keep in mind that Schnitzl’d is my favorite song)

Overall I’d say it’s a big twisty flip in the wrong direction—i wish they had stopped at Nothing Lasts

Edit: hey, i forgot about No Turn Unstoned smile. AWESOME track. Definitely in my top 15 Shpongle songs

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Posted: 12 November 2009 04:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]  
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I’d also like to add that after listening to each song ~10 times, I feel like i’ve heard it over 100. There are no new layers to explore or unexpected twists. i have 2000+ combined (not each) plays of the tracks on nothing lasts, according to last.fm, and i still find new sounds that i’ve never noticed

man i cna’t typep when i’m this tired.

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Posted: 12 November 2009 04:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]  
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No, it isn’t as ‘complex’ and layered as Nothing Lasts…

But I’m find much deeper and beautiful simplicity in Ineffable.
Something I haven’t heard since Are you Shpongled…

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Posted: 12 November 2009 05:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]  
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oh, since we’re discussing guitars: The ‘melting’ guitars in Shpongle Spores really smooth out any stress one might have experienced in the day.  Perfect chill out track smile

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Posted: 12 November 2009 05:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]  
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Hallucinogen - 12 November 2009 11:16 AM

making the music is the meditation… i used to hate electronic music, then i hated guitars or vocals in electronic music, now i’m a bit more open minded… and there are recurring themes, you just have to look a bit harder because when the themes return the mirror might be a bit dustier… or even cracked…. wink
In any case, it’s boring listening to the same thing over and over in the studio whilst making a track… i’m allowed to entertain myself smile

dude i just need to say this: the intro to shpongolese spoken here is phenomenal!!!! it produces the funniest face-twists in people (including me)... the way i see it, on this album you’ve basically dissected what sound and music is (and should be), and in the process also dissected what a trip is.

the quality of the sound engineering is probably the best i’ve ever heard, so much attention to detail…

i need to ask, though, what the motivation was behind the vocal bit at the intro to “i am you?” the bit where the dude talks about wearing a clown costume and a rabbit’s head etc… it freaked the shit out of me (i was obviously tripping) and made me feel really uneasy. i struggled to comprehend.

so yes, i would like to openly thank you for the experience. you’ve made me and many other people happy, because you weren’t afraid to push the boundary. as you would expect, not all segments are to everybody’s liking, but as a whole most of the album sounds like it is the “sound of the future,” if you know what i mean.

much much love from australia.

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