I didn’t see any other threads on this. I believe he would have been 63 today.

Considering how huge of an inspiration he was to Shpongle, I feel that this is significant.

EDIT: I just realized it’s already the 17th overseas. It’s still the 16th in America!

although i appreciate his efforts to promote the use of DMT and LSD, i am not a fan at all of his “philosophies.” how can anyone in their right mind claim that DMT takes you to another “dimension?”

i’d much rather listen to what rick strassman (or hoffman) has to say, to be honest.

Have you smoked DMT?  I’ll be damned if I don’t get thrown into another dimension.

Neuro - 17 November 2009 11:04 AM

Have you smoked DMT?  I’ll be damned if I don’t get thrown into another dimension.

you might get thrown into a hectic state of mind, but i can assure you that’s not what another dimension is.

unless you are travelling through the Large Hadron Collider whilst smoking DMT, that is…

flavius - 17 November 2009 11:56 AM

Neuro - 17 November 2009 11:04 AM

Have you smoked DMT?  I’ll be damned if I don’t get thrown into another dimension.

you might get thrown into a hectic state of mind, but i can assure you that’s not what another dimension is.

unless you are travelling through the Large Hadron Collider whilst smoking DMT, that is…

Metaphysical dimension.  Though if you believe in string theory there are another 7 dimensions beyond the 4 we typically perceive.

ALL HAIL MR. MCKENNA! 
One of the greatest souls to have ever blessed the earth with their presence…

how can anyone in their right mind claim that DMT takes you to another

Serotonin equals this dimension.

DMT equals…something else. 

Happy birthday Terence.

He did talk some crap at times but also some profound genius.

I like this talk he did on “Psychedelic Society” http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&hl=en-GB&v=Gp5IlodrPj4

This has been said twice over, but SWIM has assisted tens if not hundreds of people in traveling through DMT space and every single one of them believes in alternate realities/inter-dimensional travel afterwards if they didn’t already.

One of my favorite ways to visualize a DMT trip is this:

imagine that there are an infinite sprawling number of universes and realities layered on top of each other, and when you take DMT you are (not so) randomly thrown into a different dimension and space within….IE you smoke DMT and are thrown into a psychedelic wonderland reality, or into a deep space void millions of light years away, or the middle of a nebula

of course, its all just theory and no one can definitely say what is happening…but to say “DMT does NOT do X” is just…arrogant.  There are so many things that we do not understand about this world and statements like that do not do anyone any good.  Anything and everything is possible…I mean, fuckin a, look at this crazy crap:

http://www.skytopia.com/project/fractal/mandelbulb.html

willsanquil - 18 November 2009 04:08 AM

This has been said twice over, but SWIM has assisted tens if not hundreds of people in traveling through DMT space and every single one of them believes in alternate realities/inter-dimensional travel afterwards if they didn’t already.

One of my favorite ways to visualize a DMT trip is this:

imagine that there are an infinite sprawling number of universes and realities layered on top of each other, and when you take DMT you are (not so) randomly thrown into a different dimension and space within….IE you smoke DMT and are thrown into a psychedelic wonderland reality, or into a deep space void millions of light years away, or the middle of a nebula

of course, its all just theory and no one can definitely say what is happening…but to say “DMT does NOT do X” is just…arrogant.  There are so many things that we do not understand about this world and statements like that do not do anyone any good.  Anything and everything is possible…I mean, fuckin a, look at this crazy crap:

http://www.skytopia.com/project/fractal/mandelbulb.html

maybe we have different understandings of what a dimension is, but that sounds a bit ridiculous. just because there is a chemical running around your brain affecting the way you perceive reality doesn’t mean that you are travelling into “another dimension.”

and what do fractals have to do with anything?

Theories such as string theory and M-theory predict that physical space in general has in fact 10 and 11 dimensions, respectively. The extra dimensions are spatial. We perceive only three spatial dimensions, and no physical experiments have confirmed the reality of additional dimensions. A possible explanation that has been suggested is that space acts as if it were “curled up” in the extra dimensions on a subatomic scale, possibly at the quark/string level of scale or below.

don’t get me wrong, i love the wonderment associated with taking lsd and dmt, but you have to keep real.

flavius - 18 November 2009 01:33 PM

but you have to keep real.

pfffftBWAHAHHAHAHA!
Then you gravely misunderstand it…

But, nobody is wrong, and nobody is right in this discussion.
It’s just whatever you want it to be.

I wouldn’t be so silly as to try to objectively prove that there are alternate dimensions (however you interpret that word), just as I wouldn’t try to objectively prove that there is an over-arching intelligent force in the universe.

But when you’ve gone through the worm-hole and had entity contact its a lot easier to believe in alternate dimensions/realities/existences thats for damn sure.

SWIM remembers a size-defying sentient psychedelic colored Manta-Ray staring back at him from across time and space….he knew then that there are beings/entities/creatures far more advanced and evolved than himself….

I too find the statement “but you have to keep real” in context with LSD/DMT to be incredibly hilarious cloudwalker

  i mean you have to keep real when reflecting on those experiences. i mean just last weekend i was tripping and i swear i could see through the roof. at the time it was amazing, but i know that it was just a visual hallucination ffs.

DMT is no different, it just seems to emphasise that feeling of an “other,” whether it’s a spirit, or machine elf, or alien. people who change the way they go about their lives because of a visual hallucination are no better than people whose belief in god is strengthened by “apparitions” of spirits or saints.

that’s just my view on it, anyway.

Nothing wrong with belief.
It’s what drives us and makes us human. 
Where you apply it is up to you.

“Nothing is wrong, nothing is wronged….everything is on track…”

Getting into dangerous territory there flavius.

If I thought I could see through the roof, that might be ‘trippy’ at the time, but it certainly isn’t life changing…unless you have a very, very tight grasp on what you think reality is.

I am a militant agnostic…and what I mean by that is that you (you being everyone) don’t know how god operates and neither do I.  However, I do ‘believe’ that there is some sort of organization to the universe, that its not purely chaotic and that it is full of beauty and wonder and things that are incredibly far beyond our normal everyday grasp.

So let me get this straight…if someone has a powerful, transformative experience on a psychadelic and seeks to alter how they live their lives because of it….that is in your view ‘crazy’ or ‘wrong?’  I think a very, very large portion of this forum would disagree with you.  As long as the way you change your life is for the better, who cares if the catalyst for that was a sober meditation, an assload of LSD, or anything else for that matter?

For a particularly stunningly eloquent example, go back and read Simon’s post about DMT and how powerful of an effect it had on him.

Intense DMT experience != random trippy visual that you forget about.  If that’s your opinion, you probably have never had a very intense DMT experience at all. 

Seems to me that your ‘keeping it real’ is nothing but refusing to acknowledge that there are things out there that are beyond your capacity to understand, or turning a blind eye to the potential life-changing experiences that (properly administered) psychedelics can potentially yield….good luck with that attitude

I mean…this is the Twisted forum.  I’m sure every.single.one of the twisted artists would say that psychedelics have had an incredible effect on themselves, their music, and their entire lives.

But please, by all means…keep it real meng.

there is nothing wrong with changing your life for the better as a result of a psychedelic experience. i feel that i myself have changed a fair bit since i’ve discovered tryptamine as it’s a very eye-opening experience.

what i find silly is when people change their belief on how the universe works as a result of such an experience. of course there are things i can’t comprehend, the world is full of ineffable things. but replacing that gap with spirituality doesn’t appeal to me, i’m happy to leave it at just “i don’t understand it, hopefully by the time i die we get closer to understanding this.” everybody knows that DMT often makes you see aliens and other beings, DMT can make you attach a large amount of spirituality and meaning to an experience, and we know that it’s been seriously proposed as an explanation for alien abduction experiences. i just think it’s dangerous to turn a blind eye to the mechanism of the illusion, for me the most fascinating part in using these drugs is trying to understand how they work, and how they are affecting my reality.

don’t get me wrong, “belief” is fun, i myself follow the cult of Joe Pesci, but i don’t think it’s the most productive way to go through life. i think it’s quite limiting.