OK, one last topic start and then i’ll stop for the night, i promise..
I am very into lucid dreaming, and recently read Robert Waggoner’s “Lucid Dreaing: Gateway to the Inner Self” for more direction. I’ve been having some success with asking “dream figures” about their purpose, and here are the results I’ve gotten so far..
So the thing is, it’s suggested that when you become lucid you ask people about their purpose. I’ve asked two such persons so far. The first, who looked exactly like the guy in Bridget Jones Diary who interviews her for a job at a children’s television production, told me his role was “Good Company.” Even if that came solely from me, what a great answer!! Incidentally, he also told me he was called “Punctis Parvis,” which as it turns out is from Genesis. Weird, cuz I don’t do much religion anymore, and Latin pretty much never. The second figure I asked was a mal-formed young girl, who told me her purpose was “inner peace.” Boy, that got me thinking about me!
So now, as an experiment I am going to try to imbue myself with Twisted music (Shpongle, YB, and Hallucingoen, to be fair) before I sleep and see where that leads me. And would love to share any results.
Anyone else with lucid dream stories? Anyone willing to confer with me and try to find each other in dreams? I am more than halfway sure we are able to access each other in the dream state..
it seam interessting but how do you come to make lucid dream , i do some when someone awake me in the morning them when i get asleep again i often do lucid dream !! how do you perfect your lucid dream ?
I am more than halfway sure we are able to access each other in the dream state..
I have heard about couples doing stuff like thinking of a “secret” word before sleep and then finding each other in lucid dream state and exchanging words. Thats pretty amazing if that is true.
Im sure you have seen it but if not check out the movie Waking Life. It touches on some lucid dreaming.
I am more than halfway sure we are able to access each other in the dream state..
I have heard about couples doing stuff like thinking of a “secret” word before sleep and then finding each other in lucid dream state and exchanging words. Thats pretty amazing if that is true.
Im sure you have seen it but if not check out the movie Waking Life. It touches on some lucid dreaming.
Actually, I have not! Thank you very much for the recommendation! It’s tough to know where to go for what I’d consider more reliable or realistic information when you’re talking something like lucid dreaming.. I’m gonna put Waking Life on my Netflix queue
it seam interessting but how do you come to make lucid dream , i do some when someone awake me in the morning them when i get asleep again i often do lucid dream !! how do you perfect your lucid dream ?
Well for me it happens spontaneously quite often, but that may be because I am a very light sleeper and a bit of an insomniac, too. But I do notice I become lucid more easily when it’s the morning and I just don’t feel like getting out of bed yet so I keep my eyes closed and try for more sleep, just like you say. In the book I mentioned, though, the author stresses that practice is what’s really needed. One of his suggestions is that before you go to bed you stare at your hands and keep saying to yourself “I’m dreaming!” or something, so that eventually you may end up training yourself to realize you’re dreaming when you see your hands in your dream.
By the way, my first night of experimenting w/ Twisted stuff only half-worked—I did become lucid, but I didn’t realize my potential beyond just trying to wake myself up out of the dream. (Most of the time I’m smart enough to know I’m now free to do whatever I want )
Actually, I have not! Thank you very much for the recommendation! It’s tough to know where to go for what I’d consider more reliable or realistic information when you’re talking something like lucid dreaming.. I’m gonna put Waking Life on my Netflix queue
Simon actually uses a sample from Waking Life in the begining of the Nothing Lasts album.
I had found a lot of good information on YouTube about lucid dreaming, so maybe snoop around on there and im sure you will find what you are looking for.
I was having a dream the other night and started to become lucid but I felt myself wake up. Only I woke up into another dream and thought I was awake :/ ...sometimes ya just can’t win. Though what you said about asking people their purpose in a dream is an interesting notion. I feel that the times I have asked people what they are doing never made sense after I awoke. Like a dream figure would be doing the splits and telling me it was juggling. That kind of nonsense.
@MeThisGuy: well R. Waggoner does say that when you ask dream figures questions or request that they do something or whatever, you should use very specific vocabulary. Which I think makes sense, even if you consider it’s only your own sub- (or un) conscious that you’re talking to. inexact language leaves room for interpretation. so for example, asking “What do you represent” confines the figure’s answer better than would “What do you mean” or “What are you doing here” maybe that’s how the splits became juggling in your scenario but yeah, definitely it’s a cool concept that i’d never thought of before. and i’ve been intrigued by the results so far!
@Gnome Doser: you are a wealth of information, my friend, thank you! do i take it you are fascinated by lucid dreaming, as well? have you ever experimented?
Had me a lucid dream just this morning. Who would’ve guessed that I awoke at 4:20 AM. I had some cereal, drank some water, and fell back asleep. As soon as I was in a dream I knew I was dreaming. I decided to fly. Usually, when I try to fly in my dreams I am always thwarted by powerlines. They are always in my way for some reason. This is something I’ve never been able to conrtol. Perhaps a relation to a problem in the “real” world crossed over into the dream realm. I digress, this time though, I decided to no longer try and fly around these power lines and instead power through them. Funny thing about that is they still shocked me a little but no more than little zaps. I didn’t care, however, as I was very aware that I was dreaming. It took me a couple of trys to get into the clouds and when I did make it into the sky I tried to eat them to no avail. Next thing I knew I was on the ground again and my dad was on the other side of the fence in my yard. Suddenly he was walking to me on my sidewalk and I had some sort of conversation with him about what he was doing there but it was all blury to me as soon as I awoke. I feel like I couldn’t get a direct answer out of him and I couldn’t remember the correct questions to ask him. Thanks for the advice by the way ...even if I didn’t use it hehe
@Gnome Doser: you are a wealth of information, my friend, thank you! do i take it you are fascinated by lucid dreaming, as well? have you ever experimented?
Yeah there was a time where I was looking into it a lot. Had a few small experiences and kind of just got away from it. Dunno why. But I strongly believe in it for sure.
research Yoga Nidra (yoga of sleep) for techniques to practise.
i personally had some lucid dream experiences with body paralyzes, which rather scared me.
One of my friends has been telling me for the past couple months that this has been happening to him. When you feel paralyzed and it scares the hell out of you, but he said once you get use to the fear after a few times you can get up out of your body.
Oh, yeah, I know that fear paralysis, too! I always got it when I was younger. Now that I counsel myself so staunchly to just fight through the fear because it might end in an OBE, wouldn’t you know I don’t get that “slipping out of myself” feeling anymore. Go freakin’ figure!! So I don’t think I could say with any confidence that I’ve ever really had an Out of Body Experience. When I lucid dream, occasionally that is what I try to do, but the last time I tried I thought I’d risen up and looked down to see the room and my boyfriend in bed next to me as I’d imagined it would be but I was not there. So I guess it couldn’t have been an OBE! I like the newfound power of simply moving through things, though, such as power lines and in my recent case walls I’ve read accounts of lucid dreamers speaking to dream figures and being treated with disdain or disgust when the dreamer implies the figures are “not real.” To me that begs the question of are they real entities? Like as in other real people? I’m careful not to insult other dream beings (I love that my mind remembers to do that while dreaming) and I still feel fairly strongly I’m connecting with real minds in my dreams. Then again, who’s strong enough dream-wise to declare themselves “Punctis Parvis” in a dream? I wonder if a real someone asked me to declare myself while meeting in a dream, I don’t know that I’d be so eloquent…
p.s. tho I think since a few people showed interest in this thread, I’m going to give an account of a recent lucid dream
@sister.blackleg.herring.
Do you want to try “contacting” each other or something? I mean, I thinks it’s all silly but I am totally willing to try without doubting my sanity
I think I’ve got a sleep schedule that can actually work for me to induce more lucid dreams. It’s an exciting adventure every time!
@sister.blackleg.herring.
Do you want to try “contacting” each other or something? I mean, I thinks it’s all silly but I am totally willing to try without doubting my sanity
I think I’ve got a sleep schedule that can actually work for me to induce more lucid dreams. It’s an exciting adventure every time!
Sure, I’d love to try! Just tell me what time zone you’re in and what time (your time) you usually are asleep. Let’s just start with no more information than that, and if I “find” something interesting I’ll run it by you (and vice versa). GIDDYUP!!!
@MeThisGuy - sorry, I just realized you’d already mentioned your location in another thread. So now I know that you are CDT, only one hour behind me. OK, but you may have alluded to a weird sleep schedule, so when exactly do you sleep? hehe! I tried to task myself with looking for you last night anyway, but sadly I never gained lucidity. I dreamed, instead, about some sort of vivarium kit for growing mushrooms. I think not the trippy kind, though.. You didn’t happen to have mushroom fricassee for dinner, did you? Or a mushroom pot pie? No, wait, that one sounds trippy after all..
I am more than halfway sure we are able to access each other in the dream state..
but yeah, definitely it’s a cool concept that i’d never thought of before. and i’ve been intrigued by the results so far!
