thank you cloudwalker, i cant believe ive never heard of this guy unitl now. What is crazy is about a week or so before i first heard “Mir”, me, my girlfriend and my friend went on a hike. We found a really cool view up on top of a huge rock, and while we were up there i was sugesting that we do what Alan Watts is saying to do with sound, but with light instead. Basically just looking out over the forest and the sky and the clouds and the birds and trying not to identify them or think about them. Just to see color and light. Then about a week later we drank some Bridgessi tea, and i heard Mir for my first time. That turned out to be the scariest night of my life, things went horribly wrong, my girlfriend almost died, it took us to hell really. But it only did that because there was no other way to get the message thru. Anyway thats another story, thanks agian for the link!