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Shpongle-TOOL collaboration! Is it true??
Posted: 11 January 2007 04:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]  
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one and the only collaboration I want 2 see is Shpongle & Porcupine tree :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:

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Posted: 15 January 2007 12:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]  
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cynical as i am…neeeever gonna happen.

would be nice in a perfect world if they would collaborate though.

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Posted: 16 January 2007 08:27 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]  
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nice… tool is mathematical…

that doesn’t make them psychedelic or hallucinogenic.
what does mathematic song composition have to do with the psychedelic mind, hallucinations, alternative perception and the expansion of consciousness…

i would think the opposite, being stream of consciousness composition (not mathematics & structure), would be far more psychedelic, hallucinogenic, mind-altering…

and psychedelic vision all cuz alex grey has painted for them?
i think not…

though i’ll have to check out a concert like you say…
even though most tool sounds redundant and identical… i’d like a suprise

i wish tapeworm was never shelved

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Posted: 17 January 2007 03:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]  
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I’d have to see a solid reference to believe that any math is used in their composition. There is much heresay floating around about tool that they often dismiss as garbage in interviews. To me, what makes them psychedelic is how they push the envelope musically, experimenting with different sounds, textures, time sigs, Schism 5/8 to 7/8, Lateralus, 9/8 to 7/8, the length of many of their songs, which facilitates listening as a journey experience, and the message that some their songs communicate, specifically on lateralus, all of which is seen in shpongle. No one is suggesting that they are psychedelic BECAUSE alex grey did the artwork, but his involvement does show an artistic connection. You can believe what you want. It’s up to you to see it or not. If you don’t, so be it.

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Posted: 17 January 2007 04:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]  
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that was mean!!!

i would be all over that…

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Posted: 30 January 2007 05:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]  
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:?  I have not said ,and I have not either meant that Tool is psychedelic, because they use mathematics or something similar ......
For my they are psychedelic, hallucinogenic, mind-altering. ......because they are the sensations that produce to me when I listen to its music (because when I listen to the CD, I do not see Alex Grey

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Posted: 31 January 2007 07:24 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]  
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are you sharing whatever it is you are taking?

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Posted: 06 February 2007 07:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]  
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yeah really, it’s about time. you’re holdin out on us.

we can listen to tool and finally see the mystic journey you’re seein

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Posted: 06 February 2007 10:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]  
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Hey all,

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Posted: 08 February 2007 06:04 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]  
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Thanks so much Nagaz, I’m very excited for the moment I am done preparing for my performance on Friday, so that I can view this live vids. Also, thank you so much for describing the experience of a Tool concert, and why someone consider them hallucinogenic. I’ll be honest, I think the Tool albums stink. I think they sound very generic. I don’t think they experiment, try to break boundries, or escape their sound at all. While songs like Schism are somewhat intresting because of the odd bassline, and mostly the imagery from the video, it’s still sounds very much like every Tool song, in my eyes. The rest of the songs on that album don’t go much of anywhere else but within the same distorted guitars and maynard singing realm… I tried very hard to get into them, and I do appreciate metal when done creatively.

For example (and though most of you might find this corny [no pun intended]), I beleive the group Korn has done alot to create an entirely new sound for metal, and I consider their later albums to be the best as they begin to incorporate some untraditional songwriting structures, singing, and most importantly the production (incorporation of electronics, synths, and many many sound effects). Most Korn fans will disagree with me, but I find the electronics and unconventional production to be very ear pleasing.

I know, I know, enough about Korn, but where I’m going with this is that in Tool records, I never hear the use of odd effects, sounds, pedals, and I ecspecially NEVER hear any synths like you have mentioned are used in the live performance… were this not the case, I would probably find Tool to be amazing, as I beleive with the right producer and attitude toward production and experimentation, they have the potential to be AMAZING. My other point is that my disintrest in Tool’s work is not that I don’t like metal, because when done differently, strangely, and uniquely, I love it!

Anyway… If what you are saying about the live act is true. I do find that to be very psychedelic and hallucinogenic (of course, in a different way than shpongle). And I have definently added it on my list of things to do, to go to a Tool concert before I’m dead. However, I only wish they applied this sound… the effects, the synths, and imagery into their sound on the records. Does this make sense, or do you completely disagree?

I find there to be a huge lack of effects pedals and anything like a synth or sound effects. I don’t see how this is disputable… anyone disagree? If so, please point out which song in their recorded catalog, that I am wrong about

Again, thank you for the vids, I look forward to seeing them. Your description sounds wonderful!

.nick

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Posted: 08 February 2007 09:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]  
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Hi Nick,

I can totally understand that you think the Tool albums stink, just as I believe that Korn albums stink. I find them too hard, too harsh, a lot of that ‘ghurrr’ metal stuff where you cannot actually hear what is being sung. And you

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